<p>But sometimes they get people who idealize the means and ends of what is to be done, and when faced with the reality, these people are horrified and go into depression sometimes unto suicide.</p>
<p>I don’t doubt that the vast, vast majority of folks in the armed forces are far more ethical than the average American. And in this case, that’s precisely what led to this situation. Someone with a deep sense of mission and rightness being told to do something that was so against her own code, she couldn’t handle it. If this story is as reported.</p>
<p>My problem is that torture is a lousy way to get information, according to a close relative of mine who directed interrogation in Vietnam. So, for no gain, we get this, and a reputation with some for being on the same level with some of our various enemies.</p>
<p>This is not a thread to discuss “general military issues” This is for applicants to the Service Academies and their parents. </p>
<p>Also…
Do not make assumptions especially if you are not associated with the mental Health Field. I am, there is no way you can make this cause and effect statement. </p>
<p>Discussion of a suicide does not belong here or on any other blog for that matter. Lets show some respect and end this now.</p>
<p>Interesting posts, Bedhead and Opie. Unfortunately, Rumsfield would not ever discuss what techniques were used. There’s a general problem with some people that believe the end will always justify the means.</p>
<p>NativeTexian pointed out what some have missed, namely “there is no way you can make this cause and effect statement.” This point is critical to the issue.</p>
<p>The new articles were very poorly written, they made completely unsupportable inferences, and those selfsame articles are then being used specifically to foment disagreement over unrelated policy. ■■■■■ or a moron; your choice.</p>
<p>“He is not only dull himself, he is the cause of dullness in others.” –
Samuel Johnson</p>
<p>“They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human
knowledge.” – Thomas Brackett Reed</p>
<p>“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.” –
Oscar Wilde</p>
<p>WPSON2010,
I just got back from Washington DC and checked out the Dr Who 2005 season from my local library. I’ve sat through several episodes and have warmed up to Christopher Eccleston in the main role; too bad he only lasted one season. I also liked the Rose character and the fact that the plots had much more depth than the episodes that I watched twenty years ago. </p>
<p>I was hoping for a better explanation for “Bad Wolf” though. They kind of blew that off when they had a chance to do something interesting with it.</p>
<ul>
<li>remembering the old saying "Best to be seen and not heard *</li>
</ul>
<p>I think that ya’ll are falling into rationalwar’s trap. Note that he’s not contributing to your discussion, but merely attempting to start more fires here. I would add a few euphemisms, but that darned saying^^^ keeps going through my head!!!</p>
<p>“Note that he’s not contributing to your discussion, but merely attempting to start more fires here.”</p>
<p>It’s hard for me to concieve of a more boring pastime. Heck, it even makes golf seem exciting! Is this the classic example of “not having a life.”</p>
<p>“I was hoping for a better explanation for “Bad Wolf” though. They kind of blew that off when they had a chance to do something interesting with it.”</p>
<p>Wasn’t that the episode where the Queen Victoria get’s a splinter when the werewolf breaks through the door and has her blood infected thereby infecting the entire royal line through to the present?</p>
<p>Dr. Who goes back a very long time; in fact I think it might be the longest continually running series on television. Season 1 is as good a place as any!</p>
<p>It’s; hard to contribute when half the posts have nothing to do with the topic at hand. It kind of reminds me of when Tom Tancredo, a darling of the White Nationalist movement in the United States claims he’s looking for a Jack Bauer to solve problems and the only mainstream candidate in the field who opposed torture was McCain, the only real military hero in the bunch. (Which is why he won’t win the primary). </p>
<p>I think that in some sectors of the military, which probably are the minority, there is this attitude that international laws regarding war crimes are irrelevant. You only have to search previous posts by people with an average of 10 posts a day over the last year to see those comments.</p>
<p>It doesn’t make much sense as to why those who don’t want to discuss the topic at hand feel the need to interrupt. Let those, like bedhead, and opie, discuss along with me and YOU don’t post on the thread. It reminds me of those people on college campuses who shout down speakers they don’t like instead of opening a dialogue or simply not getting attending or joining in on the discussion.</p>
<p>zachogden,
I would start with a more current version like DVD’s of the 2005 or '06 Complete Season, hopefully from your local library. You will either love it or be bored by it, depending upon your taste. </p>
<p>It is a bit cheesy, and has been so since 1963. That, along with the main characters ducking behind a stage prop in order to evade an entire army, is part of the charm.</p>
<p>i would suggest Lost to anyone that hasnt been watching it. get the first 2 seasons on dvd and watch them over the summer. (third season should come out in the fall). awesome show.</p>
<p>I haven’t watched TV since Moonlighting went off the air (except for history channel and sports). Not snobby, just no time.</p>
<p>a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
one taco short of a combination plate.
as sharp as a marble.
a 10K brain attached to a 9600 baud mouth.
a couple of dilithium crystals short of a warp core.
a couple of knights short of a Crusade.
a couple of togas short of an orgy.
a couple of volts below threshold.
a couplet short of a sonnet.
Got no coins in the old fountain
Got no filter in the coffee maker</p>
<p>Finally…</p>
<p>I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. </p>
<p>“a couple of dilithium crystals short of a warp core.” <— Nice! Everyone knows that without a proper dilithium matrix you can’t get past impulse!</p>
<p>Well, seeing as this has become the topic at hand, I’ll contribute after all:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>People will follow him anywhere… but only out of curiosity.</p></li>
<li><p>He’s not so much of a has-been, but more of a definitely won’t-be.</p></li>
<li><p>When he opens his mouth, it seems that it is only to change whatever foot was already in there.</p></li>
<li><p>He carries out his responsibilities to his entire satisfaction.</p></li>
<li><p>He would be out of his depth in a puddle.</p></li>
<li><p>He has delusions of adequacy.</p></li>
<li><p>He has reached rock bottom and gotten out the jackhammer.</p></li>
<li><p>He sets low personal standards and consistently fails to meet them.</p></li>
<li><p>He has the wisdom of youth and the energy of old age.</p></li>
<li><p>He should go far, and the sooner he starts, the better.</p></li>
<li><p>Behaves when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap.</p></li>
<li><p>He would push for hours on a door clearly marked “pull”.</p></li>
</ul>
<p>Thank you! Thank you! I’m here until Friday! Try the salmon! It’s to die for! ;)</p>
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<p>Not only that, but unless you are able to cross-connect your deuterium supply to the electrical system, the backup power to the life support systems will run out in a few days!</p>