I goofed…I had Julliard/NEC in my post, That would be a funny double degree program in that they both are conservatories lol…what I meant was both programs are tough to get into, the various wrinkles of dual degree. Columbia and Juilliard also have something called the exchange program, which is not a dual degree (kids in the exchange program apply to get into the dual program), where they study at Columbia but takes lessons and have some sort of performance opportunity at Juilliard. Kids in that program can apply for the joint program later, if they want the BA/MM joint program.