Good luck all RD applicants!

[LunarMoon]

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@SoccerWolfP

Okay… you guys seriously ruined this thread with all this arguing. It’s supposed to be about REGULAR DECISIONS! Nothing else.

It can’t be helped. People have been discussing this topic since post #4. I’d rather not maintain it as a debate thread, either, but it’s difficult to ignore a controversial statement, once someone has already posted it.</p>

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@Colene

Look, sometimes common sense is just common sense. While it might make sense that the best cc students may do better than hs students from the worst public high schools, cc students just can’t compare to the high school student application pool (at least of Cornell) when gpas are equal. We all know people who go to ccs- unless they really can’t afford a state school, they’re just lower in caliber. The people i know who go to ccs are the partiers of high school/ kids with low scores/grades who get rejected from state schools and continue to party it up in cc (this is far from a singular case).

Then it’s fortunate that we aren’t discussing the people that you know from CC, nor do we particularly have to when others have already gone through the rigor of collecting actual data. Nor would it be logical, even without the data, since we’re explicitly discussing students that the Cornell board of admissions clearly believe are adequate transfer material. The average community college student, who fails out in the first few quarters and doesn’t even apply to Cornell, doesn’t even enter into the equation.</p>

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Anyways I was just trying to show that this was nonsense. Obviously this means something more to you for you to argue it so fervently… arguing for your self worth perhaps? We wouldn’t be having this argument if you thought that you would have a chance comparable to that of other high school students and aren’t headed for cc. Look there is no value to proving ur worth here. Do it in the real world, because people have preconceptions about cc students and they are generally correct. If you are just saying that I can’t prove that they aren’t comparable to the cornell applicant pool of hs students, I can’t, but neither can you prove that they are.

People of a particular group are offended when you make large generalizations about them? Well, that makes sense. That also goes a long way in explaining why I don’t make offensive, stereotypical comments about other people’s culture or background.</p>

<p>In addition, claiming that we can’t determine whether either of our claims is correct or not, makes no sense when there are multiple journal articles, with empirically collected data, that have already been published on this topic. Many sources even claim that transfer students perform better than [URL="<a href=“http://timetodegree.ucdavis.edu/pdf/transfer_study_analysis.pdf"]natives[/URL"&gt;http://timetodegree.ucdavis.edu/pdf/transfer_study_analysis.pdf"]natives[/URL</a>]. It took me five minutes to find [URL=”<a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/3784447"]this[/URL"&gt;http://www.jstor.org/pss/3784447"]this[/URL</a>] journal article, but you haven’t posted any scientific evidence in response.</p>

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As i said, I would be fine with the entire thing if they simply make scores a part of the transfer application to the contract colleges, simple as that - because that is the only real edge that they have (admission chances are largely based on sat -not considered for such transfers- and gpa -not really hard to get a good one in a cc-) and because of that advantage and the fact that transferring takes quite a bit of weight off high school performance, quite a number of people abuse it as the “backdoor way in” which bothers me .

I actually agree with this last one, but as stated, your reasoning and other conclusions are faulty, and don’t seem to be backed up by much hard evidence.</p>