I very much could be wrong about this, but I was reading the OP as suggesting they DID get some sort of high school credit for this course, but for some reason it did not appear on the in-progress HS transcript sent to colleges, but is going to appear on their final HS transcript.
If that is right, I think it is actually a Type 1 case, and what Cornell is saying is you don’t need to have the college send a separate transcript. But I think the implied assumption there is it will appear on your HS transcript. And in this case, it did–but later than one would have expected given the timing.
Definitely could be (but I doubt OP got credit for a D?) Hopefully the counselor knows the deal.
But that doesn’t change the fact OP should have filled in the common app info that they took a college level course(s) via DE. If that had happened and Cornell didn’t see any DE grades, they would have contacted OP and/or the counselor during the application review process.
This is terrible advice. As they say in politics- it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup. It’s ALWAYS the coverup that gets folks in trouble. Coming clean and getting in front of something before there is a complicated story to tell is ALWAYS the way to go.
Years ago, the company I worked for fired a senior vice president who lied on his resume (about ten years earlier). He claimed a degree he hadn’t earned. It didn’t prevent him from getting the job. It didn’t prevent him from getting promoted. I’m sure over time he gradually stopped losing sleep over it.
But the company switched liability insurance providers, and part of the new insurer’s due diligence process was to verify the biographical details of every senior executive and do a criminal background check. And his degree was unverifiable. The situation spun out of control within days- first he claimed the records had been destroyed in a fire at the registrar’s office. Yes, there had been a fire. No, the records hadn’t been destroyed. Then he claimed that he had an unpaid charge on his account which is why his degree didn’t show up-- his diploma had been withheld until he paid the charge which he could not afford to do. So he never walked at graduation, and never “officially” graduated. That too was debunked. Etc. Every day he had a different explanation- and then he was let go.
There is no doubt in my mind (nor anyone else on the HR team) that if he’d come clean the very second his lie was exposed he’d have had a mild wrist slapping and then gone back to his job. But the long and tortured coverup did him in.
What “somehow” do you think the OP could perform to get the course removed???
I’ve also been thinking about ways to remove the grade. I’m not so worried by Cornell thinking I’m unprepared, more so of them rescinding me for technically not sending an accurate transcript when I applied.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s possible for me to remove the course. I’ve researched my CCs policy on this extensively in the past few hours. There is a withdrawal deadline for every class and they don’t let any student withdraw from a course after that deadline. I’ve emailed my CC advisor and he’s reiterated this. I am allowed to take the course again over the summer. However, since the earliest I could retake it is over the summer, after I’ve graduated (1) I would have to pay a lot of tuition and fees for one class and (2) Cornell would have already received my final transcript with the initial grade.
@Mwfan1921
This is correct. All my dual enrollment classes show up on both my HS transcript (where I get credit and it influences my GPA) and my CC transcript. For some reason it didn’t show up on my transcript by the time I applied to colleges, but it showed up later. It will show up on my HS transcript.
I don’t know which type I’m in. On one hand, it does show up on my high school transcript, but I did not take most of my courses to fulfill a HS graduation requirement. I mostly took classes that I hoped would give me useful future college credit (though I didn’t need to take most of these courses to graduate).
The weird thing is that most of my DE courses were on my HS transcript. I have been taking DE courses every semester since the summer before my junior year. However, only the DE courses I took in the Spring semester of junior year didn’t show up.
OP didn’t have to report course detail in the app, so there would be nothing for AOs to note (unless they noted there were DE courses in other prior semesters and thought to call the counselor.) If none of the DE courses from spring 2024 showed up on the transcript, I would say that’s at least partially a counselor issue IMO.
Thank you for your reply and I apologize for my ignorance. At my school, we can choose to omit certain DE classes from our HS transcript provided they do not count towards any graduation requirements, so I mistakenly assumed that was also a possibility at OP’s school (of course, we would still have to report that we took the course and the grades we received on the Common App). I realize why this is poor advice and will take this lesson moving forward. Thank you!
I am not sure whether the grades needed to be submitted or not. But just want to emphasize that the important issue here is not the grades, but academic honesty. Your impulse was to hide the D. Going forward, if you do attend Cornell, I would recommend always being honest and transparent because consequences of academic dishonesty can be severe. Good luck and hope this works out.
Again, I don’t know for sure, but this is sounding more and more like some sort of strange administrative glitch that just didn’t get caught during the admissions process.
This is good news if so, because then that would mean no one has behaved unethically yet, it is just one of those strange things that sometimes happens when bureaucracies try to interact.
Of course we still can’t tell you exactly what Cornell will think of all this, but I do think it confirms you should just get your counselor to explain what happened, and then take it from there, being willing to do whatever Cornell might ask you to do.
But there are two issues that could jeopardize OP’s offer of admission to Cornell University: potentially unethical failure to report and a very low grade of “D”. The low grade may be enough alone to affect the offer of admission especially since OP had several other non-stellar grades.
Like @Mwfan1921 said, there wasn’t any option to record the number of courses I took. I just had to report the institution where I took the courses so there wouldn’t be anything to note there. The problem is when I send in my final transcript the discrepancy will be the new bad grade.
It’s not an issue with my counselor. It’s an issue with the CC. They didn’t send over the grade for that course (which they need to do before it can be put on my HS transcript).
No need to apologize. Your sympathy is really helping me get through this situation. Unfortunately, I don’t have that option. I think even if I did I’m required to submit my CC transcript anyway.
No, I think my mid-year update was only my senior year grades. Also, I submitted the mid-year update really late. I applied ED to Cornell and got deferred. I was unclear on whether I had to send it to them until I emailed them. They said I could still send it so my counselor did. They didn’t receive it until a week before Ivy Day.
