<p>I will say it one more time. The number of people in these joint programs is very small. In any given year 3-6 is normal. They ran through virtually every person with me (not by name, obviously) and how they fared after graduating. For these four programs, at least,every person had a job after graduating except the couple that decided to stay for a PhD. If they are liars, they are very good at it and they coordinated it between departments. You really have to love conspiracy theories to believe that.</p>