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<p>That certainly sounds bad for Scott. At least the other 10 defendants don’t appear to have any explaining to do about incriminating-looking weaponry.</p>
<p>I am having a hard time wrapping my brain around all the packages being delivered to the parent’s home as well. And since the boys did not appear to have jobs, where did they think the funds were coming from to purchase all these things that were being delivered? I don’t consider myself an intrusive parent, but this is just plain old common sense. After a few deliveries, it I wasn’t getting straight answers, I would have opened a package. I would want to know what is being delivered to my home.</p>
<p>Maybe the parents worked and the packages were delivered on weekdays? Not sure this could have been arranged always. Our UPS/Fedex packages come in the early evening. I think they do the businesses first and then the homes.</p>
<p>Until things are sorted out as to what is allowable evidence and what is not, what has explanations that cannot be disproved, what does not, we really don’t know what’s what. Personally, I don’t think there is anyone who does not doubt that there was drug dealing going on here. Who was involved how deeply and what the story really is, may never come out completely and how it ends up in a court of law often ends up quite different from the initial news stories.</p>
<p>This is certainly news, and certainly disturbing, to say the least, to many of us parents on this board. </p>
<p>As to what parents suspected or knew, I can tell you that once your kids get older you simply do not get involved in a lot of what’s doing in their lives. It’s certainly credible to me that the packages might have been delivered during the day when parents were at work and they simply did not know the magnitude of the shippings, or some other sideline business could have been given as some explanation. If there was a lot of money rolling in there, there may well be other residence where the subject here lived and kept his high living things. I have kids who kinda live here, that i have little knowledge of what’s in their other home. </p>
<p>I agree with NYmomof2 that if these allegations turn out to be true, they represent behavior far worse than the typical drug dealer would have in a simply transactional relationship with customers (which is also bad, of course). The fact that these young men were allegedly involved in youth sports and were likely respected and trusted by the kids they targeted is really awful.</p>
<p>Considering the number of texts the prosecution have of buyers and sellers…if there’s enough from HS students, they may not necessarily need cooperation from the high schools to prosecute these dealers for selling to HS students. </p>
<p>However, they’re probably pursuing other avenues to strengthen their case. </p>
<p>If they weren’t your kid’s coaches, they were your kid’s friends or classmates or your neighbors. Whether your kid is directly affected by it or not, your community is affected by it. I think it’s hideous. </p>
<p>Schools are in a tough spot. They can’t bring everyone with drugs to police. They know kids do stupid things and they have had kids who turn around and grow uo to become successfu individuals. It isn’t just because they are afraid for their reputation that they cover up.</p>
<p>An update: 2 Gettysburg College students who were not arrested testified before the grand jury and admitted buying drugs from Scott and reselling them. Yes, Bay, the DA’s affidavit only says who they are and what they said to the grand jury. Obviously, we don’t know it they lied to the grand jury. Or maybe you want to believe that the DA lied about their testimony. <a href=“http://www.eveningsun.com/local/ci_25636251/gettysburg-college-students-testify-philadelphia-area-drug-ring”>http://www.eveningsun.com/local/ci_25636251/gettysburg-college-students-testify-philadelphia-area-drug-ring</a> One of the 2 named, Simmons, is a 2011 graduate of Haverford School. (I couldn’t find any information about the other.)</p>
<p>jonri,</p>
<p>The article you provided does not provide any information about Scott selling cocaine to minors on high school property. Regardless, it is up to the prosecution to prove, and a jury/judge to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt, that the alleged events occurred. Otherwise, you are using the words of admitted drug users/dealers as facts.</p>
<p>Bay,</p>
<p>Did I say the article I linked said that Scott sold cocaine to minors on high school property? No, I didn’t. In fact, I don’t think the DA even made that allegation. As I understand it, Scott sold to subdealers. Some of the subdealers were high school students. They made the sales to other high school students. That was the whole point of subdealing. </p>
<p>Moreover, the article I linked was about sales at Gettysburg College. I acknowledged in my post that it’s possible the 2 students involved lied to the grand jury. If you want to believe they did, you are free to do so. </p>
<p>Ok. I didn’t understand why your post was directed at me. I thought you were trying to tell me something.</p>
<p>I was, but obviously you didn’t get it. So, just forget it. </p>
<p>Interesting article, Jonri. </p>
<p>Allegedly :</p>
<p>We know that Scott was not only supplying coke and/or pot to his two sub dealers at Gettysburg but that he was also selling directly to the students at that college.</p>
<p>We know that the drugs that the police picked up on the one day that they made a sweep of all these people were not the only drugs they ever had.</p>
<p>So basically Scott is in huge legal trouble. The students at Gettysburg are now dealers. They are in big trouble. The other students at Gettysburg are buying and possessing illegal drugs so they are in some trouble.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how it all washes out in the end.</p>
<p>Brooks is a question mark. Supposedly he was in charge of the high schoolers supply. We shall see. He is either in huge trouble or was lucky enough to have only just gotten started when Scott was arrested. We certainly know from his text messages that he wanted to be supplying enough drugs to make quite a bit of money. </p>
<p>An aside: If during ones lifetime they can see a pattern of people walking away from a conversation or saying never mind and ending the discussion with them one might want to reassess their debate tactics.</p>
<p>And no, Bay, I did not ACTUALLY state this was about you. </p>
<p>I am glad that this is big news, that is so rarely happens that it causes such a stir. The sad thing is that for certain groups of people this will not make much news at all. Just a line item on the police blotter. So as much as it hurts that these young people are abetting crime among their peers, their communities, their homes, these young people who had so many other good choices, got so much from their backgrounds of privilege, at least it IS big news when it happens.</p>
<p>As to who did what and provided what, I would not go on the news blarings other as items of personal interest because a lot end up untrue, irrelevant, unprovable. Sharing them as news is one thing, trying to use them a facts is way premature. I can think of too many times when things just were not right, and some established, supposedly news media had to back off and apologize that they were in error. I see this in all kinds or reproting, by the way, not just crime news. But IMO when it comes down to accusing people with serious crimes, there should be much more care taken.</p>
<p>Now I’m saying this as someone who privately believes that that there is a quite the fire under this smoke here. But I don’t think contributing to sensationiaism which the news is well known to doing is a good thing or the right thing. </p>
<p>It’s not the Columbian drug lords or the ghetto drug Kingpin that will likely introduce and provide the drugs to your kids, for most CCers, (my guess anyways), but their friends and classmates. I’ve know some drug dealers and known them since they were sweet kids, know their parent, and they are as nice as any. Also, your own kid could be a drug dealer. </p>
<p>I knew one such kid, @cptofthehouse–sweet as pie, brilliant artist, loved by all. He thought he could make some extra income selling pot in Philadelphia. He went missing last fall and his body washed up in Virginia Beach a few weeks later. The suspicion is that he was traveling with a large sum of cash and was targeted. That he was murdered suggests that his killers may have been from a rival “distribution chain.” It was all over the local news here because the family had posted a $100,000 reward for information about his whereabouts before he was found. </p>
<p>We need to help our kids understand that they may not be buying directly from the Colombian drug lord or the ghetto kingpin, but it’s THEIR ruthless, massively destructive industry that our kids are keeping in business when they buy illegal substances. I discourage my kids from spending hard-earned money on all kinds of dubious items, and I try to make thoughtful decisions too whenever possible. Pot itself may be relatively harmless (and that’s a separate debate), but its illegal sale and distribution supports some pretty awful stuff. </p>
<p>We all need to recognize that, and help our kids recognize that too.</p>
<p>Yes, Lucie, it’s heart wrenching when someone you personally know and care for goes that way. It’s shocking and terrible enough when you don’t know the persons involved, but when a piece of your heart and mind is wrapped up in there, it’s can be like a glass shard.</p>
<p>I wish all those who smoke joints, share the good, get involved in all of this while it is still illegal understand exactly what they are enabling and supporting. Doesn’t seem like some big deal buying from young alum from your school or anyone else you knew or your friends know who seems just like you. Many kids wouldn’t go near the stereotypical ghetto drug dealer, but it seems all ok when it’s from someone upscale and looking like your friends. But what is being supported is a whole other story.</p>
<p>I can’t bring myself to jump wholeheartedly into making all drugs legal, at not quite yet for a number of reasosn, but to cut the knees off those evil violent ones in the trade, I would seriously consider it. When it come to surface how these things are so related to unconciounable acts, terrible people, you want it gone, all of it gone. What a lot of people don’t get, is how that gram of weed you buy supports a terrible group of people.</p>
<p>The pot was allegedly being mailed to Scott from CA, where he had worked for a medical marijuana dispensary. If the product came from the same sources as that sold by the dispensary, I would think it was produced by a legit domestic grower, not imported via the illegal international drug trade. Of course I don’t know, but it wouldn’t be surprising if this was the case, since Scott supposedly said it was “quality” pot that people would want, or something like that.</p>
<p>Having a lot of friends in the medical and pharmaceudical field, I can tell you that drug abuse and, yes, dealing are not unusual there. It’s shocking to find this out, but yes, it happens. Can’t say prevalent or give any stats, but most everyone I know in the field is aware fo this, not at all surprised. So yes, some of the drugs come from sanctified sources. But you join a sordid fraternity when you start down that path.</p>
<p>I have heard it is (or was) relatively easy to get a prescription for a medical marijuana card in CA. </p>
<p>Regardless of how easy it is to get a medical marijuana card in CA, someone had to do some pretty serious lawbreaking to be mailing pounds of pot to this guy.</p>