"Guaranteed Transfer Option"

<p>I think each is important in its own way. You have to maintain a certain GPA as part of your agreement and if you’re say a bio major…your intro bio grades will be important but I think the overall GPA has more weight with the GT option.</p>

<p>I think if you were a regular transfer both would weight pretty heavily in the admissions decision</p>

<p>just my 2 cents…</p>

<p>I hope so! I have absolutely no problem(s) with the GPA requirement, but I had some trouble last semster with a class, and the same goes with this semester (just got back my first midterm… yikes!)</p>

<p>I think I saw that you’re a GT individual…so I would recommend that you work hard to maintain whatever overall GPA you need and aim to do well in classes that are applicable to your potential major.</p>

<p>Hi, opeful–</p>

<p>To me, as an outsider who does not know the particulars of your S’s situation, I’m hearing that he didn’t complete the summer program (or didn’t complete it ‘successfully,’ whatever that may mean) and that he was also unhappy at the 4-year school last fall. I’m hearing things like you “took him out and placed him in a CC.” </p>

<p>Again, this is totally coming as an outsider to your situation and just basing this question on the wording of your post, but is it really your son’s dream to attend Cornell? Are you empowering him to make his own decisions–do you know what I mean? It’s been our experience that the student himself has to <em>really</em> want to make the GT work for it to work. Our S, for example, has planned absolutely everything he’s done for the last year around being successful in this thing. Not every 18-year-old is willing to do that.</p>

<p>I hate to see someone who has such a bright opportunity throw it away for any reason, so I would understand your anguish over that, if you think that might be happening. His grades from the fall don’t sound like someone who is not trying, though. A B- in a college course is not a grade to be ashamed of, if you are working hard to get it. It’s true that it’s not going to put you at a 3.5, however.</p>

<p>I agree that it’s best to contact Cornell. This must be a frustrating and difficult time for you. They sound like they have offered your son a 2nd chance once, so there must be something about him and his abilities that they would like to encourage. They might like to be aware of how he’s doing so they can counsel him on how best to proceed.</p>

<p>Best wishes!</p>

<p>diehldun–You’ve had a midterm exam already??? Wow; that seems early, but I guess it isn’t, since you went back for the 2nd semester earlier than my S did. His midterms aren’t for a few weeks yet. Hold on–this is going to be the roughest time of the GT process in many ways, I’m thinking. We’re all holding our breaths over here until midterm. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you!</p>

<p>Thanks, Dr_Mom! It’s making for a generally nerve-wracking time: when do I submit my midterm grade report? In other words, do I have the professors sign them now, or “risk” it until right before/after the March 15 deadline, after many many more midterms…</p>

<p>Is your son mailing it “well before March 15” (as the GT form says)?</p>

<p>On my status page, it says I have not and should have sent in SAT scores. But I did not see that requirement in the GT application. Further, I sent in my high school transcript through my high school, but it says that the transcript is missing. Also, there is not a field for college transcript that I sent in. Is the SAT only require for regular transfer applicants? Does everyone have the same thing on their status page?</p>

<p>This is what it looks like <a href=“http://people.virginia.edu/~tcw9p/cornellappstatus1.pdf[/url]”>http://people.virginia.edu/~tcw9p/cornellappstatus1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>WTC,</p>

<p>I’m sure that if you sent in the forms they’re in the midst of processing them and haven’t gotten around to updating what you’ve submitted yet. If you’re really worried, call the admissions office of the college you applied to – they should b able to let you know if something’s missing. Also, you shouldn’t be required to resubmit your SAT scores. Assuming you’re a GT, they should have your scores on file from when you applied last fall, yeah?</p>

<p>diehldun–Does your school issue a formal midterm grade report, or do you have to depend on the form where you take it around to the professors to fill out and sign? My S’s does issue a formal report, but it misses Cornell’s GT application deadline by a few days. He asked them what he should do, and they told him. He’s not trying for ILR, though, so maybe you should find out from Ian?</p>

<p>WTC–It didn’t even occur to me that GTs would be following their application status online like they did when they applied last year. Did you get a notice in your email inbox (like last year) that they received your application and you should follow the status of the supporting documents? My S was told that they’d still have on file anything he sent last year and that he didn’t need to send it again (h.s. transcript; test scores, etc.). Hmm…</p>

<p>Same here… WTC, when did you submit your main GT “application”? I have yet to receive any e-mails, etc. My GT contact only said they’d e-mail me if they were missing anything, and that they are beginning to process GT applications this month. </p>

<p>Dr_Mom, indeed, I have to go around to different teachers with the same sheet for them to sign. Fortunately, our school already had midterm exams(!), and I’m doing well so far this semester, so I think I’m going to “pass it around” this week, and submit the midterm report next week. I hope it’s not too early, but I believe ILR is “rolling”, so who knows…</p>

<p>I sent in the first two sheets of the application back in December. This is the email I received on Jan 3rd. I am unsure if they mistakenly thought that I am a regular transfer. There may also be a difference as I applied to arts and sciences.</p>

<p>Dear XXX,</p>

<p>Greetings from Cornell University! We have received your application for admission and are delighted to learn of your interest in the university.</p>

<p>We are writing to let you know that the Undergraduate Admissions Office at Cornell has a service that will allow you to check your application status online. Using this service, you will be able to verify whether the admissions office has received your application materials and access your financial aid checklist if you apply for financial aid. Once Cornell admissions committees are finished reviewing applications and decision letters are mailed, Cornell will also give you access to your admissions decision online through this secure service.</p>

<p>In order to provide maximum security on this site, we are asking you to create a password so that you will be the only person with access to your information. To begin the process, you will need to use your ApplicantID and activation code.</p>

<p>Your ApplicantID is:
XXXXXXX</p>

<p>Your activation code is:
XXXXXXX</p>

<p>Please go to <a href=“http://applicantid.cornell.edu%5B/url%5D”>http://applicantid.cornell.edu</a> and use your ApplicantID, along with your activation code, to activate your ApplicantID and set your password. Once your ApplicantID is activated, you will be able to use it to check your application status and learn of your admission decision once this information is available to applicants. You are strongly encouraged to activate our ApplicantID within two weeks of receipt of this letter.</p>

<p>If you have any technical questions or concerns about using this system, please contact <a href=“mailto:uao-webmaster@cornell.edu”>uao-webmaster@cornell.edu</a>. If you have any other general application questions, please call us at 607-255-5046. In the meantime, we wish you the very best for a successful and enjoyable year.</p>

<p>Sincerely,
The Cornell Admissions Staff</p>

<p>WTC–Hmm. Thanks for copying the note you received for us to look at. It does sound to me like a regular admissions kind of note, but who knows? The main thing, I guess, is to make sure that all of these GT colleges receive all the info. they’re expecting from the GT applications. My S was told that, like in the regular admissions procedure, with the GT they would follow-up with him on anything they needed that they didn’t have, which was nice to know.</p>

<p>diehldun–One way to measure midterm is to divide the weeks of your semester roughly in 1/2, of course. If your semester is the typical 15 weeks, then somewhere between weeks 7 and 8 ought to be about right. If you’ve had your midterm exams, however, even if it’s before week 7, then it seems like that might be a legitimate argument for sending the grades in now. Your professors have to sign off, so they won’t do it, presumably, if they think it’s too early to report a midterm grade for you.</p>

<p>My S will get a formal midterm grade report from his current school, so Cornell wants to see that.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>hi. i am new to this site. i am a gt student too and i was wondering when we would get the final decision for our application? (Is there a date?) i haven’t even got the reply back from cornell yet. (like self-checking account, etc.)</p>

<p>As an unrelated side note - I went to Cornell GT and we all lived in the same area. After getting to know other transfers, I realized that a large majority of us came from very economically unstable families and another large group had parents who ran major global corporations. There were others, but these were two over-represented demographics for such a small group.</p>

<p>I guess, financially, it makes sense for the school to want to take qualified broke students but not support them for all 4 years and for the school to take potentially less-than-stellar wealthy students in the hopes of getting some financial kick back down the road. </p>

<p>It was just interesting to see that dynamic manifest so obviously in such a small community of transfers. So, don’t take it personally either way. There seem to be larger socio-economic forces at work.</p>

<p>Interesting analysis, applejack! I never realized/heard that. </p>

<p>As a former GT, do you now feel well “assimilated”? How was the overall transition?</p>

<p>I think the transfer thing is somewhat unique to Cornell - at least in such numbers. So, you basically become a force of sorts. For instance, I pledged a fraternity that had an entire rush/pledging cycle built for transfers (it’s interesting to watch a bunch of juniors in college roll their eyes when people, often younger, try to treat them like dirt).</p>

<p>Since most people already have their cliques I found most transferees keep in their own circles more or less, integrating only through activities and not through natural assimilation. That’s not universally true, but it’s a choice many make to remain more-or-less detached. I chose not to remain detached, but had many friends who did. Even though I engaged (like through the fraternity), I found myself more or less on the outside looking in - not truly part of the fabric of the fraternity because I was just passing through for a couple years. </p>

<p>I don’t know if transferees ever really feel like they are truly a part of Cornell in the way 4 year students do. Most come in junior year, so 2 years is really short and just when you’re getting your bearings you’re tossing a piece of cardboard on your head.</p>

<p>The upside is that I found transferees have a broader view of the world. They’ve experienced something completely different and can assess Cornell more objectively. I found students who came in as freshmen were really indoctrinated into all the hype and mythologies (good and bad) of Cornell because they didn’t know anything else collegiately. So much of who they were as individuals was wrapped up in what “Cornell” was perceived as. Transfer students seemed to be able to detach from that and see it as what it is - just a school from which you can make do what you want.</p>

<p>I do think that the transfer assimilation is different depending what year you enter. I entered Cornell as a sophomore and I really feel as if I’ve been here since freshman year…</p>