"Guaranteed Transfer Option"

<p>Was your son majoring in Bio. or a Bio.-related field? I’m looking at the green sheets of course descriptions from Cornell for the GT, and they say the Bio. required for my son’s major (not a Bio. major) is valued at “3 credits each term.” I think the intro. Bio. courses at most other schools would be 4 credit hours, which includes a lab (3 cr. lecture + 1 cr. lab). So, that would take 8 credit hours to possibly equate to Cornell’s 6. Is this what your son ran into problems with and what you had objections to? I know the labs have to be schedule separately, so was it more of a scheduling conflict for him?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Oh, I just remembered that your son was a business major, yes? You were the bio. major alum; hence the irony. Ironic, indeed…</p>

<p>Ya there hasn’t been a single problem w/ my ILR GT…easy as pie.</p>

<p>I didn’t actually look at the course guide before hand. It was still really really easy tho. The requirements for my college actually worked for a couple requirements for ILR. It was really easy. Only tough one was science because I didn’t want to take biology or chemistry…so I ended up lucking out with oceanography that had labs. A few people couldn’t take a couple of the courses recommended and Ian didn’t mind very much. It only helps u if u take them so u aren’t behind.</p>

<p>If u take a tour of Cornell u will end up having a 1 on 1 talk at the ILR college. There was only one other family w/ us at ILR so we got to ask as many questions as we wanted. The courses we r taking this year count for some electives / non-ILR requirements that we need to take in the four years. Once I get to Cornell I’ll be taking some ILR courses w/ freshman and some w/ sophomores to catch up ILR wise. The courses I took this year are some of the things ILRies who r there for 4 years are gonna take at different times, so I’m not really behind. The system is really smooth and has been in place for long enough for it to be an easy transition.</p>

<p>It’s unfortunate to hear what happened with ur kid w/ AEM. I’m glad to hear things worked out and you should send a letter to Cornell explaining what happened and recommend what could change…because it won’t change unless someone tells them to.</p>

<p>I’d say take the GT. If it doesn’t work it doesn’t work. I committed 100% to it and did great. The courses I wanted to fit all did except for science, which ended up working out. GL! Post any more questions if u have them.</p>

<p>As far as I am concerned, it was definitely all worth it. I actually had a LOt of fun this year! College is GREAT! I can’t wait to have an even better experience at Cornell that is more intellectual and passionate.</p>

<p>U '11 GTs make a facebook yet? I recommend it if you haven’t! (We had an ILR '10 one and it was good to have)</p>

<p>My son wanted to major in Business, hence his application to AEM which is actually in CALS. Cornell wanted separate labs and lecture. At Indiana,they don’t do it that way. After much back and forth with Cornell, he had two 3 credit Bio courses(lab and lecture) that Cornell said would count for 1/2 the requirement. He did the math and wasn’t about to take 12 Bio credits to end up with 6 at Cornell. His trade off became Cornell AEM vs Indiana U. Kelley. Another irony, both business schools were tied in last year’s US News polls.</p>

<p>He’s thrilled to be at Kelley.</p>

<p>Wow, tamiami, that does not sound pleasant at all. But your son was not an ILR applicant, right? I hope your experience isn’t representative of the Cornell GT ILR experience!</p>

<p>So far the GT process for ILR has been pretty smooth… right now I’m waiting for a response from ILR, I have done everything right…but somehow I feel nervous lol I check the online app. Status page like twice every day…obsessive I know…hahaha
I’m sure things will turn out fine tho:)</p>

<p>I see. Thank you for explaining. That <em>is</em> a pretty ugly trade-off, and I can certainly see why your son made the choice he did. I’m glad he is happy at Indiana. I’m wondering if the course match-ups for the GT program might be a little smoother for students who go to NYS schools (SUNY) first year. The Bio. requirement is the one that seems to be the most problematic…thanks for the heads up on potential problems there.</p>

<p>Acerbic or figgy: is Cornell really picky with Bio requirements for ILR transfers? Or are these problems just for other schools within Cornell?</p>

<p>You’re not required to take Bio.and even if you decide to just email all your classes to Ian…! ILR was not that picky with classes…so nothing to worry about.</p>

<p>Have you gotten ur course requirements yet?…If I recall correctly I got them about this time last yr! the smartest thing u can probably do is to keep in touch with Ian!</p>

<p>My daughter received a GT offer to CALS in plant sciences. I too am a little concerned about the BIO requirement since the green “Guaranteed Transfer Summary” lists several Bio options. I sent CALS the course descriptions for General Bio I and II(as well as for what they list as the other requirements) which at our local community college is 3 lecture hours/3 lab hours for each course. Each is a four credit course. Other than the BIO requirement, the rest seems straightforward. She plans to take Gen Chem I during the first summer session at our community college.
The CALS admissions person who I spoke to said that community college transfers within the SUNY system seem to do well in the transfer process- I guess we’ll have to wait and see how it goes once their decision on her courses comes back.<br>
One more thing: regarding the english requirement, have most of you GT’s taken one writing/one speech communication or two writing classes?</p>

<p>you guys keep talking about this GT counselor Ian for ILR. does anyone know who the counselor would be for AEM or if there is a phone number or anything. also, figgy you said that you can meet with them if you do a campus tour. did you arrange that before you went or once you got to campus? thanks.</p>

<p>No I didn’t mean Ian, I mean that when u take a campus tour u then go off to ur seperate college (at least with at ILR) and have a nice chat w/ a very knowledgable student in a cozy room. It was really helpful and the student was great. Also there was only one other family! It was really great! Also I’m sure that if u call ur transfer counselor they would be happy to meet w/ u…it’s their job! The whole day was really great and I highly recommend it. Make sure u go on a sunny day if u r able to! Cornell and Ithaca look great when it’s nice out! I also regret not going to see the gorges lol. Cuz u know wat they say, Ithaca is Gorges lol.</p>

<p>yes very true its their job aha. would you happen to know who the AEM counselor is ? Ian is only ILR right? thanks for the reply btw.</p>

<p>Figgy–</p>

<p>If you have not yet gone to see the gorges when you are in Ithaca, you are in for a breathtaking experience! As much as you already seem to love Cornell, you will find it an unforgettable place when you see the waterfalls flowing right through campus. There are many gorges and waterfalls around Ithaca in the Finger Lakes region as well. Be sure to go see them! I’ve seen many beautiful campuses across the country, but few if any can match the natural beauty that exists at Cornell.</p>

<p>To bring this back to GT, we were also told, aveesmom, that community colleges (at least in NY; we live in NYS) are particularly flexible in working with students in the GT program. I’d be interested to hear the results of your course description match-ups, if you’d be willing to share what they say about them, particularly the Bio.!</p>

<p>So it seems like so far that these “bio problems” are less prevalent for ILR transfer, meaning they are more flexible than other schools?</p>

<p>has anyone here been a GT to AEM and know how difficult it is to fulfill the required courses? is it neccessary to take summer classes becuase if so i am not doing that haha. thanks.</p>

<p>diehldun:
It seems so…I think the Bio. Req. is for other colleges… it’s really simple, just pick a bunch of classes and they’ll tell u which one’s fulfill req. and which ones transfer as elective credits! I don’t think ILR req. Bio. at all, for the science portion u can pick from things like astronomy /oceanography/sociology/ philosophy…etc. lol so if u don’t find the thought of actual science classes agreeable (as I do), u can get away with one of those…lol</p>

<p>Wow, thanks Acerbic! Did Ian tell you all this too? Cornell/ILR is really flexible!</p>

<p>mmm I donno about that. The 1st two would work but probably not the last 2. U need a science w/ a lab…</p>