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<p>Word of advice: I’m an AEM GT (CALS)…Before you register for classes contact admissions and list all the classes you will take that particular semester and have them approve it. Save your emails and later during application time, forward the email too. I even had one class that my school didn’t offer unless I was going to do premed track which was way too crazy to take 2 science classes w/ 2 labs + advance calculus all in one semester…so I asked admissions for a substitution class and they approved!</p>

<p>This way you won’t have any heart attacks later on. Figgy did you do this too?</p>

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<p>MaryJulia-</p>

<p>It was smart of you to save the emails and ask for approval on a substitute class. My d did submit her schedule before both the fall and the spring semesters for approval/feedback. She also sat down with the Cornell GT counselor in early March to make sure she had all bases covered. </p>

<p>Has anyone called to find out when the GT decisions will be posted? Can’t believe my d. is going through the stress of the “wait for a decision” again; this is as bad as being a senior in H.S. although it is worth it. </p>

<p>TrilliumCB</p>

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<p>Ya I made sure Ian confirmed every class was acceptable. I saved the emails but figured I would only send them back if I had a problem (which I hopefully won’t lol)</p>

<p>Trilium, tell her not to worry about it if she met the requirements. I’m sure she’ll be fine! :)</p>

<p>GL everyone. I don’t think anyone who has posted yet even has a chance of not being accepted.</p>

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<p>That’s what’s making my d. so nervous. She received a B- last semester in a class; grades were submitted with an email of explanation as per Cornell’s request. She does not automatically get in.</p>

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<p>Oh ok, well I wish her the best of luck! Hopefully everything will turn out great.</p>

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<p>Just found out from admissions…ILR GT decisions for those who did not strictly meet the criteria will be posted the first or second week in May. I did not ask the date that decisions will be posted for those who did meet the criteria.</p>

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<p>TrilliumCB–Good luck with your d and the B-. That’s one of the scary aspects of this thing and one I worry about if my s goes through with the GT for Class of 2011. Any kind of fluke assignment, professor personality, or test score can shake up a final grade in a course for a student who is normally a strong learner. I’ll be interested to hear how your d makes out, (if you’re willing to share). A B- doesn’t seem all that bad to me and is not that far out of the guidelines (esp. if it was only in 1 course), but who knows what the decision will be. It’s interesting that they (at least in ILR) take a look at your d’s explanation of the grade and take that into account. That’s good to know.</p>

<p>Best of luck to your daughter (and you)!</p>

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<p>trilliumcb, did ur d get a course catalog? Btw, best of luck to her…i think she’ll get in!</p>

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<p>D received GT for ILR last year. She attends UC close to our home this year. She’s currently on the quarter system so she sends her classes over to Cornell to have them approved at the beginning of the quarter. She’s gotten the grades and will now be transferring to Cornell in August - yea! I would say the only hard part about the process has been trying to keep from getting too attached to her current school (lots of friends and now boyfriend-yikes!) and starting over again in August getting to know a school and making friends but after her UC experience with huge classes and not being able to get classes she wanted, she is ready to transfer.</p>

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<p>congrats to your D collegemom, hope things work out for her! :)</p>

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<p>I’m having a lot of trouble letting myself accept that it’s all right that I’m going to an unimpressive school and living at home this coming fall because I’m going to be at Cornell come fall '08. Does anyone have an advice or reassurance for someone doubtful that the GT is the right decision (despite the fact that Cornell is definitelydefinitelydefinitely my number one)? </p>

<p>I hate explaining my situation to every single person that asks and, being a senior in high school, I get the “so, where are you going next year?” question at least three times a day. It feels wrong to say “I’m going to Cornell,” but I’m not crazy about “I’m living at home for a year,” either. And I’m not “taking a year off.” </p>

<p>For those of you who’ve done GT before and not gone to a school with a good reputation for your freshman year, how did you deal with the weird questions and the doubts that being a GT really IS a good thing?</p>

<p>Any words of reassurance or advice would be really appreciated. Thanks :)</p>

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<p>hey my situation was very much like yours! I can tell you that its not easy at first…with all the questions ppl tend to ask about your plans and sooo on, but after a while you’ll get used to it and things will turn out OK :wink:
It’s important to keep in mind that you ARE going to Cornell…have some confidence, Cornell must have liked you a lot and that’s something to be proud of!
Just tell ppl that Cornell has offered you admissions as long as you take your required first year courses somewhere else, and that you have chosen this route because it would be a great transition for you… don’t worry about ppl being judgmental ;)</p>

<p>I think through this whole experience I really learned to cope with the fact that I don’t need to look for validation ,and I don’t need to impress anyone, because essentially this is MY goal/ dream and I will do anything to reach it… even if it means going to a school that might not be the “greatest” lol
you make sacrifices…</p>

<p>The process is fairly simple too, as long as you keep in touch with your transfer counselor and follow the guidelines you will be absolutely fine! </p>

<p>GL and enjoy your first year!</p>

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<p>Ya who cares what they think, it’s ur life. U’ll be the one going to an absolutely fantastic school after a year. Ur true friends will know what is happening with you anyway. And once u get to ur first year school guess who u r gonna be around…those kids. So it’s not like u have to live around that awkward feeling for long because once u get to college EVERYONE will be going to that same school lol. </p>

<p>Just tell them u got into Cornell for Sophomore year so you are going to ___ for freshman year so you can save money…or something along those lines. GL and CONGRATSSS!</p>

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<p>indigo451–</p>

<p>Depending on where my s goes next year (local 2-yr. or 4-yr. school a ways away), he may be in the same boat you are. It’s tough to be a hard-working, high-ranking student in your senior h.s. class, get a GT offer to one of the most highly selective schools in the entire country, then end up starting out at the same local community college your freshman year as other students who were not as driven or achieving as you are (and also where few, if any, of your honors classmates may be going, etc.). It’s certainly hard to fight against the stigma of the local CC among honors h.s. students. There are other great students who go there, though. Money is sometimes a big factor for them. Another thing to keep in mind is that many of the less motivated students will not be in the courses you will be taking. They will need more college-prep courses, such as basic writing skills, or pre-college math, etc. You will be taking classes more with students like yourself than you might think.</p>

<p>Once you graduate, I think this might all become easier. One year goes by very fast. Also, after more GTs go through the program and show how successful it is, it will be more common knowledge, I think, and people will be more happy for you without so much explanation required. You are helping pave the way for students coming after you to have a smoother path!</p>

<p>In the meantime, if you’ve had Cornell approve courses beforehand to help you select your freshman year school, you might think about saying something like, “I have a Guaranteed Transfer offer from Cornell to start there sophomore year. For my first year, I’m going to School X because Cornell has approved that I take my required first year coursework there.” That takes the focus off of you and School X and keeps it on Cornell–THEY gave your 1-year at School X Cornell’s stamp of approval, etc. In a way, it seems like you are already a Cornell student in that respect, since you are following their recommendations and requirements, just at another campus.</p>

<p>Another helpful phrase we’ve heard so far from my s’s prospective 4-yr. freshman year school was that he would enter as a “planned transfer student” (meaning he does not intend to stay at that school until graduation). I hadn’t heard that phrase before in this process, but I think it’s useful in conversations about the GT arrangement. </p>

<p>I’m thinking the GT may become a more popular option for both colleges to offer and students to accept with the huge numbers of students applying for college these days. It will be interesting to see. </p>

<p>Good luck, and let us know how you’re doing!</p>

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<p>Dr. Mom- I have an additional suggestion for your s. regarding where to go for the freshman year. We sat down with the GT counselor for my d’s school (ILR - the most helpful and likeable Ian again) and asked him about specific SUNY 2 and 4 year schools. </p>

<p>The counselors are able to make recommendations based on past GT students - they can tell you if a specific SUNY school has the types of classes you need, if they have had successful transfers from those schools, if the schools are helpful with providing the students with the transcripts they need, etc. If you want additional info feel free to send me a private email message.</p>

<p>One of the cons to going to a larger SUNY U. is that it MAY be more of a challenge to register for some of the required GT classes; required core courses tend to be very large and fill quickly. Is the benefit of learning how to live away from home worth it as compared to being a day student at a local CC college? It was for my d.; it was not for her friend who went the CC route successfully. It’s strictly a personal decision.</p>

<p>I also saw someone post “get a B- for schools requiring B and above and you’re automatically out”. That’s not so; it just requires an extra layer of consideration - you lose the “guarantee” in the GT. Remember: they offered you GT because they BELIEVE you can do it - they want you to succeed! Keep in touch via email/in person with your GT counselor, you want them to know you and you want to take the right courses. That part really was not hard or stressful for my d.</p>

<p>My d. spent hours going through the course catalog when she was home on break (catalog came a couple of months ago) and now I think would like to attend Cornell on the 10-year plan (not a chance) so she can take all the courses she finds interesting! It will be such a relief when the final decision comes.</p>

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<p>Oh, one more thing - we encouraged our d. to select a school for her freshman year that would support her in her goal to transfer to Cornell, but that if it did not work out, or her interests changed, she could stay at to get her 4-year degree/obtain a great education. That was a BIG reason for her not going to the local CC.</p>

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<p>Your son, in my opinion, has made the right decision. The AEM propgram is still not viewed as undergrad business program, by many employers. Could be a perception, and will change soon! </p>

<p>From whatever I have learnt, it appears that the career services team at KSB is proactive and concious of the importance to secure internships and final placements for its students. Why? Because it doesn’t have the source effect of an Ivy, or the brand appeal of Michigan (Ross) and Virginia (McIntire). </p>

<p>Recently, my friend’s daughter graduated from KSB, and secured a very attractive job in a Big 4 accounting firm. In her case, she could not attend Wharton, on account of financial constraint. </p>

<p>If you are son is enjoying the academic environment and campus life at IUB, then why think about a change!</p>

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<p>I totally disagree w/ Rintu’s comment. AEM IS considered as an undergrad business program by all firms that I’ve talked to which are all big firms such as GS, ML, MS, Citi, smith barney, Lehmans, etc…</p>

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<p>I’ve been reading the posts regarding the GT. My son was given one for the Biological Sciences at Cals. We are hoping he will meet the requirements at SUNY Oswego. We are not sure what Bio she should take freshman year as he did get a 5 on the AP test. Other than that he’ll take Chem 1 and 2, Calc 1 and 2(unless he scores a 5 in the May AP. Composition Writing and Public Speaking. Any suggestions? What other courses do you think he should take?
Will a GT advisor from Cornell contact us?
Thanks from first timer sending a child to college!</p>

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<p>What state school will you go to?</p>