Half of all children are below average

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<p>I understand that NCLB represents poor policy. I saw and agree with the quote that Fountain Siren highlighted in her second post. The quote that I’ve highlighted, though, is what upsets me.</p>

<p>I’ve been tutoring adolescents at a youth shelter since 2003. I’ve worked with scores of kids with so-called “social and economic problems”. </p>

<p>The “culprit” of their problems is not “low intelligence”, with the attendant, condescending, self-satisfied implication that there is little or nothing that can be done about their “social and economic problems”.</p>

<p>The true “culprits” are their utterly inadequate family, community, and/or educational backgrounds. </p>

<p>I have seen first-hand how such supposedly “low intelligence” adolescents can blossom, and makeup significant lost ground, when placed in a safe environment and treated with acceptance, positive attention, respect, encouragement, and a belief that they can succeed. </p>

<p>It seems to me, therefore, that those who claim to be concerned about the “dreadful” state of many urban public schools, and about “social and economic problems”, would do well to devote their efforts to improving, rather than justifying, the poor performance of such schools. The same could be said about the inadequate communities and family situations that often coexist with such schools.</p>

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I agree with the first sentence and therefore question the second sentence as the solution. As I’ve posted here before, my better half teaches in one of the poorest districts in the state. However, due to a court-mandated ruling, NJ funds its poorest districts at a rate equal to or exceeding that of its richest districts - at the expense of state tax payers. As a result, the district in which she teaches has the highest per-child spending in the entire state. This results in classes which typically have fewer than 12 students in them and mostly have two teachers for these small classes. This has been going on for many years now - long enough to see the results of this experiment in exorbitant spending. Unfortunately, the results are dismal with the students achieving at a rate well below the state average and for the most part in the “deficient” category.</p>

<p>The cause for this poor performance? Certainly lack of parental support and role models is a major contributory factor. If the teachers attempt to raise expectations by attempting to provide a demanding educational environment, some parents will intervene, saying in effect, “we don’t have the same values as you do with respect to education, so please don’t try to impose your values on our kids.” </p>

<p>However, another factor is the teacher union and the tenure system - one in which not only is mediocrity tolerated, but so is downright poor performance. One teacher is a known drug addict who quite often falls asleep in class (one of the perks of having a co-teacher I suppose.) She has tenure and as a result the best they can do is shift her from job to job trying to find a place that she does the least harm.</p>

<p>These are the two key primary factors in poor performance at our inner-city schools and unless these are addressed, throwing more money at the situation is equivalent to throwing it out the window.</p>

<p>For what it’s worth (maybe little), an article I wrote for homeschoolers over the weekend:</p>

<p>(Part One)</p>

<p>Schools Make the Kids Dumb(er)</p>

<p>Now that got your attention, didn’t it?</p>

<p>I know what at least some of you may be thinking. The infamous homeschooling author has taken a cheap shot. On what basis can he possibly make such a wild, categorical, and overreaching claim? And, even if there is some truth to the argument, why make it here? </p>

<p>These thoughts have crossed my own mind as well. But, with a sigh, I’m continuing to write. You’ll soon find out (I hope) that it isn’t a cheap shot, and that folks much more knowledgeable about such things than I am are the ones making the claim. But I throw myself at the mercy of my homeschooling readers, with the following pleadings: A) I am more than aware that the vast majority of parents in this country are not prepared to homeschool their children, and that, as a society we have a stake in the future of all children, not just those fortunate enough to be homeschooled; and B) In my experience, when it comes to education, most everything about school is wrongheaded, but if we can understand in some detail precisely what it is schools get wrong, chances are we won’t stumble into the same mistakes.</p>

<p>Anyway, you know the usual drill. The state (or local) level data on those high-stakes tests are released to the local press. A bunch of public officials say that grades are higher than ever. The schools are doing a great job, though there’s still room for improvement. And if only we had more money! No attempt will be made to follow the same kids year after year so that we might find out whether what happened in the classroom actually made any difference. There will be occasional outliers, but, on the whole it is predictable that, when you examine the charts in the local newspaper, scores by school will reflect local real estate values. There won’t be any mention of the real statistical anomalies, such as the fact that every state is above the national average in test scores. (Don’t ask me how that is possible - the new math is not my strong suit.)</p>

<p>Since the introduction of intelligence testing in the early part of the 20th Century, scores on so-called “objective”, criterion-referenced tests have increased in a consistent manner. Until the 1990s, tests scores had to be recentered every 15 years or so to reflect improved performance. The “Flynn Effect”, named after Australian political scientist James R. Flynn who first described the phenomena, mostly reflects improved performance in the “bottom half” of the population, resulting at least in part from improved nutrition and environmental conditions, as well as increased exposure to scholastic skills and perhaps to testing itself. </p>

<p>And then sometime, it seems around the late 1980s/early 1990s, the process ground to a halt, not just in the United States, but abroad as well. Last January (2006), I came across the work of Professors Michael Shayer and Philip Adey of Kings College at the University of London. Adey and Shayer have been following the results of tens of thousands of children on intelligence tests over the past 30 years. And their findings? Eleven-year-old children are, “now on average between two and three years behind where they were 15 years ago” in terms of cognitive and conceptual development.</p>

<p>These are no fly-by-night researchers. Shayer and Adey have for decades been two of the foremost lights in British education. Their work is funded by the Economic and Social Research Council, Britain’s leading thinktank on matters related to education. Previous research by Shayer in the 1980s had validated the use of particular standardized measures, unchanged since 1976, as predictive of general levels of performance, and had, in fact, formed the basis of nationwide intervention models for poor-performing students. His work has since been replicated on three continents.</p>

<p>“It’s a staggering result,” stated Shayer, “But the figures just don’t lie. The results have been checked, rechecked, and peer reviewed.” “It is shocking,” said Adey, “The general cognitive foundation of 11- and 12-year olds has taken a big dip.” The test, noted cognitive scientist Denise Ginsberg, measures both general intelligence and “higher level brain functions.” “It is nothing less than the ability of children to handle new, difficult ideas.” </p>

<p>The results have already caused experts in England to question whether the standardized national tests they have been using are of long-term benefit to learning, and cast doubt, according to Paul Black, another educational luminary at King’s College, on claims that standards are in fact improving.</p>

<p>The articles I read noted that the study was to be published in 2007 in the British Journal of Educational Psychology. I decided not to wait that long, so I contacted Adey and Shayer directly and they were gracious enough to send me an advance copy. (If you would like one, send me an e-mail, though note that much of it is quite technical.) Without going into too much detail, the large drops in competency between 1976-2000 were evident. But, and more striking, the declines seem to have accelerated since, even as schools were implementing test-normed “higher standards”, adhering to “National Numeracy and Literacy” projects.</p>

<p>In press accounts, Adey and Shayer are somewhat circumspect when it comes to explaining the observed mass cognitive retardation. “I would suggest,” says Shayer, “that the most likely reasons are the lack of experiential play in primary schools, and the growth of a video-game, TV culture. Both take away the kinds of hands-on play that allows kids to experience how the world works in practice and to make informed judgments about abstract concepts.” </p>

<p>Adey went a bit further. “By stressing the basics – reading and writing – and testing like crazy you reduce the level of cognitive stimulation. Children have the facts but they are not thinking very well. And they are not getting hands-on physical experience of the way materials work. Parents should switch off the television and sit children around the dinner table to debate issues such as ‘What should we have done about the whale in the Thames?’” (For information on the whale in the Thames, visit <a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/20/britain.whale/index.html[/url]”>www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/20/britain.whale/index.html</a> )</p>

<p>In the article itself, it is evident that Adey and Shayer are aware of some of the contradictions inherent in their work. In the tradition of the child development pioneer Jean Piaget related to the formation of intelligence, of which the authors are a part, it is “the whole everyday environmental experience of the child that drove cognitive development, with schooling possibly playing only a minor part in the process.” On the other hand, it is now a given within the educational orthodoxy that school should be able to play a more significant role, and the evidence now suggests that it does – negatively. Adey and Shayer’s articles concludes, “Perhaps the next major Government objective in education should be to address the question: in focusing teachers’ attention on the specifics of the 3Rs only, what has been lost from the earlier primary practice of attending to the development of the whole person of the child?”</p>

<p>Homeschoolers don’t have to live inside that contradiction. I note that despite Adey and Shayer’s research conclusions, they remain focused on where the teachers’ attention should be, rather than that of the kids. Realistically, and given who their employers are, perhaps that is asking too much of them. But in the spirit of learning from the seemingly demonstrated success of schools in retarding children’s intellectual development, we can at least take a hint. Want your kids to be better at math? Throw out the workbook pages, let them play in puddles, bake some cakes, grow some vegetables, assist you with map directions. Want them to read better? Let them help you with the shopping, choose the videos, sort the mail, and provide them with enough experiences so they’ll want to make use of the reading skill. Oh, and lots of good conversation – precisely what they will never get sitting in those little chairs behind those little desks never to be seen anywhere else in the real world.</p>

<p>Glad we’re homeschooling.</p>

<p>Part Two:</p>

<p>Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water….</p>

<p>One area that requires further exploration is the impact of teachers “teaching to the test.” Professor Black hypotheses that when the stakes are high, teachers do in fact teach to the test. “This produces a short-term, three-year uplift in results before they plateau.” But it also “means students can perform well in the tests without necessarily understanding the underlying concepts.” A study by two leading psychometricians at Arizona State University, found that in 17 of 18 states that had adopted high-stakes testing” (all of which reported “improvement”), levels of student learning as measured by other independent measures of academic achievement were indeterminate, remained at the same level, or actually declined after the testing policies were implemented. Scores went up; learning went down.</p>

<p>One would hope that at some point this madness would come to end, but, sigh… (this article has so many sighs!) Just when I thought I had exhausted the subject, a homeschooling friend in North Carolina alerted me to the latest trend in educational moneymaking. School districts in some 17 states are now purchasing “pre-tests” to be utilized before the high-stakes ones (the mega-million-dollar company marketing them calls them their “award-winning formative assessment product line”). Now there are tests before the tests, and progress and diagnostic monitoring assessments (more tests) so that teachers can teach to the assessments before the pre-tests in preparation for teaching to the test that is then supposed to identify children who are at risk of “not meeting performance standards and to develop intervention and targeted instructional strategies to improve student performance.” (A mouthful, isn’t it, but then most of us haven’t been reading what passes for educational theory these days, or at least I hope not.) In a previous article, I wrote about the teaching of “Phonics in Utero”; now it should be reported that we are likely not far from an assessment strategy to go with.</p>

<p>To borrow a catchphrase from my professional work in the alcohol/drug treatment field, this reminds me of “the hair of the dog that bit you.” (I am tempted to describe what I see happening in educational circles these days as akin to drug addiction, but I think I’ll save that for another time.) People quickly forget that the purported aim of high-stakes testing to begin with was not to identify children in need of help, but schools that were not performing well. Well, heck (pardon me), as noted, in the main I could have done that before this latest iteration of school reform began – just check the real estate values. And maybe (as John Taylor Gatto has suggested recently), that’s what the whole thing is really about.</p>

<p>Gladder we’re homeschooling!</p>

<p>-all music -: I agree with you regarding the state of ‘gifted’ education. In our district it was/is to dumb them down.</p>

<p>ADad, the problem is not assuming that different children have different intelligence levels and that some are smarter or more able than others. The problem is the assumption that the smarter kids are in better school districts, and the less intelligent in the poorer school districts. Is it not possible that there are some brilliant kids in the poor district (the ones that you’ve seen blossoming), and some really not-too-bright kids in the more affluent ones? Of course! (I mean, I’ve dealt with some pretty disappointing Harvard graduates as well as some brillian high school dropouts!) But until it is acknowledged that not every kid in Chevy Chase, MD needs AP courses, and that not every kid in Harlem is incapable of benefitting from them, then there is nowhere to go and no way to improve the situation.</p>

<p>As far as vocational learning is concerned, I actually like one of the things done around here. Each town or city has its own schools, but all the cities and towns in the county support a joint voc-tech high school. THis allows for economy of scale, so that each small district doesn’t need a fully equipped auto shop, wood shop or beauty parlor. The kids who would benefit from that education get it, with no stigma attached, and the rest of the kids in the “regular” high schools tend to be the ones who are geared towards college.</p>

<p>But until we acknowledge differences both in learning styles and in learning abilities, we have failed virtually all our children.</p>

<p>Chedva, in NJ, there are hundreds of individual school districts – little fiefdoms all. Usually one per town, with a rare regional district made up of two or three towns combining resources. In vo-tech, however, our county has centralized those offerings. The problem? The vo-tech school has become a dumping ground for problem kids, many with absolutely no mechanical inclination or aptitude. You’re correct that it would be impossible for each town to have state-of-the-art metal shops & auto shops, so a county model makes sense. It’s just a shame that the vo-tech mission has been bastardized in this way. Kids wishing to break into plumbing or other trades are often forced to go to a pricey trade school after h.s. graduation because attending the county vo-tech would have been a very, very dangerous proposition.</p>

<p>Vo-tech in my town consists of co-op slots. Basically, a kid works as a cashier in a paint store for half a day and walks away with a diploma. I don’t see too many true apprentice type situations. Meanwhile, plumbers & carpenters in town are desperate for good workers. Our schools are dropping the ball.</p>

<p>Charles Murray… isn’t he the controversial co-author of The Bell Curve etc? We had a recent thread that touched on some of this debate:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=272648[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=272648&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This guy is most famous for insisting that there is a biological and consistent difference in IQ in the races.</p>

<p>“This guy is most famous for insisting that there is a biological and consistent difference in IQ in the races.”</p>

<p>In 1920, the head of the Psychology Department at Princeton (and President of the American Psychological Association) PROVED that 88% of American Jewish immigrants were “mentally deficient”. (He also favored, as did the Pres. of Harvard, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Columbia a strong program of eugenics, or “sexual hygiene” as he called it - this is where Hitler got his ideas, or so it was testified at Nuremberg.)</p>

<p>roshke, have you read his book? Many trashed it, including the president of either HYP (can’t remember which) without having read it! Whether or not you appreciate his conclusions, it’s quite interesting.</p>

<p>Another controversial book, this one exploring differences in athletic ability among races, is Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports & Why We’re Afraid to Talk About It. Fascinating.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Taboo-Athletes-Dominate-Sports-Afraid/dp/158648026X/sr=1-2/qid=1168975558/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-0034638-2270220?ie=UTF8&s=books[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/Taboo-Athletes-Dominate-Sports-Afraid/dp/158648026X/sr=1-2/qid=1168975558/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-0034638-2270220?ie=UTF8&s=books&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Purely an anecdotal observation, but I think my children have received a much greater breadth/depth education in just about every subject than I ever got (both similar socio-economic public schools, but different states).</p>

<p>Anyone else agree/diagree?</p>

<p>I think it depends on area
I was blown away by a friends high school papers from her school in Minn- but I would agree that in my suburban school in the 70s there was little rigor.
However, I have seen primers from the 40s that would indicate that after the ColdWar, instead of increasing science and math learning, it was made simpler.</p>

<p>The topic is being dealt with at this very moment in the quaint confines of the Parent’s Forum:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=289217[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=289217&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It is not possible for ALL students to achieve AYP by, what is it, 2011, as the article points out. But anyone associated with the educational establishment must pretend that it is. NCLB is causing an even further dumbing down of our schools by focusing on reading and math exclusively; it is causing rampant cheating; and most of all, it is causing an even further demoralization of teachers and students.</p>

<p>Our state this past year suddenly decided that it was time to revamp the “cut scores” for our state testing. This is something that has always been done periodically for all sorts of technical reasons–nothing to do with NCLB (wink, wink). What do you know? Every single category of kids (advanced, proficient, basic, below basic) in every grade increased their scores!! Some by leaps and bounds! Congratulations and pats on the back all around! It is a travesty.</p>

<p>Our administration did not take kindly to questioning. I contacted the educational writer for our local major city newspaper. He wrote back that he sympathized; indeed, he knew what was going on, but there was nothing he could do about it.</p>

<p>Nothing anyone can do about it? Interesting.</p>

<p>So day after day we are fed feel-good propaganda from our local papers about our schools–mostly centered on community service. </p>

<p>Imo, our entire educational system is corrupt and rotten to the core.</p>

<p>I don’t know about FF statistics and the comparisons of two populations, but my half of all children meet and exceed the average.</p>

<p>Come On people, where did you go to school?</p>

<p>“Everyone would be better off helping kids find and utilize their own areas of talent, some of which are not academic.”</p>

<p>Yeah, this is a real shame. I think vo-tech could save a lot of the young men who currently drop out of school.</p>

<p>However, I strongly disagree with the idea that the bell curve is what’s causing deficient academic performance in America. Even if you accept g as a construct (which is controversial), every country in the world will have a curved distribution of talent. Yet many countries are closer to universal literacy than the US, including some countries that are poor (Tonga; Phillippines; Sri Lanka) and others that have a much more difficult writing system than English (China; Japan).</p>

<p>Do innate differences in g prevent some kids from ever grasping calculus or writing college-level papers on James Joyce? That’s possible. But if you aren’t ■■■■■■■■, you can learn to read Harry Potter, understand graphs, multiply 3-digit numbers, etc. Since a large percentage of our kids can’t do those things, the problem has to lie with how we (families and schools) are teaching them. It’s a cop-out to say that millions of American children are just too dumb to learn to read romance novels. We’re blaming OUR failure on them.</p>

<p>The world is littered with the intellectual offspring of the eugenics movement of the 1910s and 1920s. Historically, they always turn out to be wrong, but the consequences of their “interesting” work are often to the sinister side of “interesting”, and I think that is an understatement.</p>

<p>Here I was ready to pounce on HH, but you know I agree…whaaa???</p>

<p>The powers that be are turning public schools into factories slowly day by day. Alot of the things that made kids look forward to school are being dropped by the wayside to accomdate some silly high stakes test. Recess, gotta go! Show and tell, dump that! ART, why would we need art? drop it!</p>

<p>Everyday, somebody is trying to make education an assembly line factory.
Ever wonder why? I do, quite often.</p>

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Eugenics: When science becomes the gold standard of human liberty. </p>

<p>It was, in fact, Sir Francis Galton taking the work of his highly sympathetic cousin Charles Darwin into the realm of civics.</p>

<p>The big bang, as it were. Now this august torch is carried by Dr. Dawkins et al.</p>

<p>How about that, mini?</p>

<p>“It was, in fact, Sir Francis Galton taking the work of his highly sympathetic cousin Charles Darwin into the realm of civics.”</p>

<p>Well, I would use the phrase “bastardizing” the work, not taking it. It’s a perversion of Darwin’s ideas to argue that natural selection is about anything other than the production of fertile offspring. Valuing other “meritorious” traits, such as intelligence, above successful reproduction is alien to Darwin’s whole argument. The eugenicists were actually in favor of artificial selection (i.e. dog breeding), not natural selection; they mutilated Darwin to provide a pseudoscientific cover for their political goals.</p>