<p>^^ “(internationals, based on reasonable estimations, are admitted at a four-times-lower rate)”</p>
<p>Any evidence for that?</p>
<p>mifune, I always appreciate your posts. They’re very rational and certainly thorough :)</p>
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<p>Nope. 
I think it’s strange, especially since I live in the Los Angeles metropolitan area…</p>
<p>I got into UChicago EA. Gonna apply to Harvard, Princeton, and Yale just for the hell of it. We’ll see if I luck out. Otherwise, I will be attending UChicago.</p>
<p>So has everyone who has had an interview been asked about SAT scores?</p>
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<p>Yes, I was asked about SAT scores, class rank, and AP scores. My interviewer said that Harvard makes the interviewers do that.</p>
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<p>I do have a citation for MIT admissions.</p>
<p>Class of 2014:</p>
<p>International applicants: 3.59% (131 / 3,648)
Domestic applicants: 11.9% (1,545 / 12,984)</p>
<p>[MIT</a> Admissions: Admissions Statistics](<a href=“http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml]MIT”>http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml)</p>
<p>Statistics for the class before this year’s (which I can no longer locate the URL of an archive):</p>
<p>International: 3.38% (123 / 3,636)
Domestic: 12.9% (1,552 / 12,026)</p>
<p>Higher standards of admission are the cause of the lower acceptance rate for international applicants. Therefore, acceptance rates would diverge further apart if one were to disassemble each category by acceptance rates between domestics and internationals at equivalent SAT echelons (say by organizing categories of fifty by each 800-point section). The numerical effect of disaggregating each category by SAT stratum is to reveal the effect of comparative levels of qualification between the two pools and its corresponding effects on the comparative rates of admission at each scoring tier. The consequence of such is not readily inferable from simply uniting the demographics by “domestic” and “international” without addressing a highly causal and conveniently quantitative stand-in for qualification. (One needs to be rather immune to data to dispute the SAT’s causal effect in ultra-selective admissions at the most competitive percentiles.) In other words, the way MIT presents the comparative acceptance rates in its publicly reported info further disguises the international admissions disadvantage in a sense. The effect is additionally concealed by the relative proportion of international applicants (usu. 20%-25% of the pool at the nation’s most selective universities) to international matriculants (usu. comprising 8%-10% of the student body at the respective institutions), which is further removed from the desired statistic – how international acceptance rates compare to those of domestics at discrete levels of qualification. </p>
<p>But I would scarcely believe that any university would publicly disclose comparative median SAT scores (the proxy for qualification) between domestic and international applicants and the corresponding rates of admission. Or permit use of internal data for scholarly purposes, as evidenced by the sheer absence of academic studies, as far as I am aware. Accordingly, it’s difficult to diagnose the extent to which domestic applicants are favored over internationals at similar or equivalent levels of qualification. The only plausible conclusion is that it’s more disparate than the relative rates of admission presented in the MIT “lumped” tabulation (to the disfavor of internationals), given the higher median thresholds of admission subjected to international applicants.</p>
<p>^how do you normally hear? I’m just curious. </p>
<p>Also, most interviewers are pretty kind and open. Thus don’t look down on anyone. </p>
<p>My interviewer was a lawyer and a really friendly guy.</p>
<p>They* don’t look down on anyone.</p>
<p>I can’t edit. I’m on my iPhone.</p>
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<p>Hopefulharvard is purely engaging in clownish, nonsensical banter. Claiming deafness and “arms [bending] outwards” as symptoms of dyslexia is absurd. Moreover, I remember his thoroughly bogus chance thread from October.</p>
<p>Do you guys think it would be possible to amend the Harvard supplement after sending it? I would really like to replace the optional essay I already sent after getting a rejection from MIT.</p>
<p>I’m sorry if this has been asked before, but… </p>
<p>How did you guys answer that question on the supplement which asks: </p>
<p>"Have you had or have you scheduled an admissions interview? "</p>
<p>Yes
No - but I plan to do so.
No </p>
<p>I mean how would anyone have scheduled an interview before submitting this? did everyone just say “No” and explained that you weren’t contacted/didn’t contact for an interview because you didn’t submit the application first? </p>
<p>i’m utterly confused… Someone help me!</p>
<p>^ To my knowledge, Harvard does not have that particular question on its supplement.</p>
<p>^It does for international students. I was wondering the same thing.</p>
<p>^ Oh, you’re correct. In that case, then, I would probably put “No - but I plan to do so” since that shows that you’d be interested in having an interview if you were offered the opportunity.</p>
<p>Oh so it’s only for international students. </p>
<p>Of course, I was going to choose “No-but I plan to do so”</p>
<p>but then they ask you to write the time and place of the interview. (As in, they expect you to have it scheduled already) this is a pretty weird question…</p>
<p>^I thought that was strange too. Especially because for some countries outside the U.S and Canada, they have a “don’t call us, we’ll call you” policy. I’m not sure what they want and I haven’t received a reply to my e-mail inquiry yet.</p>
<p>mifune: Re:"Quote:
Originally Posted by via
what percentile would a 2230 place me? </p>
<p>It would place you slightly north of the fiftieth percentile of students attending. "</p>
<p>Mifune, the percentile is from bottom, not from top?</p>
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I submitted my common app, my supplement, my app fee, and my test scores all on November 30. My teacher recs were in the common app system before that… my counselor form/rec and transcript were sent via mail and I believe they received that in the last week, per application status page.</p>
<p>No interview yet. /:</p>
<p>@ keellota: Haha, tell me about it. I submitted all those things with the exception of SAT scores in mid-September. On top of that, I live near a major city (Los Angeles), and I still don’t have an interview. :/</p>