<p>I’ve only heard that term applied to Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>I’ve also only heard it for Vandy</p>
<p>I’ve heard it used for Emory multiple times.</p>
<p>Harvard, Duke of the North!</p>
<p>I think Rice is more like Yale than it is like Harvard.</p>
<p>And it’s true that Duke resembles Princeton in a lot of ways. But Duke is probably the most selective U in the South at this point, and thus is Harvard-like in that respect.</p>
<p>comparisons of Southern universities</p>
<p>Endowment ($Billions, 2009)</p>
<p>Harvard $25.6</p>
<p>UTexas $5.5-$12.1 (campus not listed separately from system)
Duke $4.4
Emory $4.3
Rice $3.6
UVA $3.6
Texas A&M $3.5-$5.0 (campus not listed separately from system)
Vanderbilt $2.8
UNC $1.9</p>
<p><a href=“Page not Found”>Page not Found;
<p>Library (Volumes held, 2008)</p>
<p>Harvard 16250117</p>
<p>UTexas 9447434
UNC 6526824
Duke 5950442
UVA 5532266
UGA 4637291
UFlorida 4288218
LSU 4082803
NC State 3981278
Texas A&M 3933535</p>
<p>[Association</a> of Research Libraries :: ARL Statistics 2007-08](<a href=“http://www.arl.org/stats/annualsurveys/arlstats/arlstats08.shtml]Association”>http://www.arl.org/stats/annualsurveys/arlstats/arlstats08.shtml)</p>
<p>Academic program rank </p>
<p>Average of Nonzero scores (national rank, NRC, 1995)</p>
<p>3 Harvard</p>
<p>16 UTexas
20 Duke
24 UNC
28 UVA
37 Emory
41 Rice
48 Texas A&M
52 Vanderbilt</p>
<p>[NRC</a> Rankings](<a href=“http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc1.html]NRC”>NRC Rankings)</p>
<p>USNWR (national rank, PhD aggregate ranking, 2008)</p>
<p>4 Harvard</p>
<p>13 UTexas
(nothing lower listed)</p>
<p>USNWR (national rank, professional school aggregate ranking, 2008)</p>
<p>4 Harvard</p>
<p>7 Duke
8 UTexas
12 UVA
(nothing lower listed)</p>
<p><a href=“http://grad.berkeley.edu/publications/pdf/usnews_rankings_2008.pdf[/url]”>http://grad.berkeley.edu/publications/pdf/usnews_rankings_2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>Academic Ranking World Universities (world rank, ARWU, 2009)</p>
<p>1 Harvard</p>
<p>31 Duke
38 UTexas
39 UNC
41 Vanderbilt
48 UTexas Southwestern Medical Center
58 UFlorida
88 Texas A&M
91 UVA
99 Rice
100 Emory</p>
<p>[ARWU</a> 2009](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp]ARWU”>http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp)</p>
<p>I have never heard “Harvard of the South” refer to anyplace other than Rice University.</p>
<p>I think you’re saying it backwards, obviously Harvard is the Rice of the North.</p>
<p>at one point there were so many Virginia prepsters at Princeton that it was called the University of Virginia of the north</p>
<p>Harvard of the South is definitely…East Carolina. ■■■■■. ;]</p>
<p><<<cuny as=“” poor=“” man’s=“” harvard=“” is=“” hilarious.=“” i’ve=“” heard=“” that=“” term=“” before=“” actually.=“”>>></cuny></p>
<p>Tell that to the 14 Nobel prize winners who have emerged from CUNY.</p>
<p>wasn’t CUNY also a big basketball powerhouse many many years ago?</p>
<p>The Harvard of the south is Harvard. It’s also the Harvard of the north, east, and west. There is only one Harvard.</p>
<p>Princeton…ahem, was for many many years referred to by many people as ‘the Northern School for Southern Gentlemen.’</p>
<p>Part of the beauty of the top schools in the South (Duke, Emory, Rice, Vanderbilt, U Virginia, U North Carolina, Wake, W&M, Davidson, Tulane, etc.) is that most attendees don’t spend their years as a student or as an alum wishing/needing to be seen as attending the Harvard of anything. Why? Because each of these schools has its own unique characteristics that stamp it as a terrific undergraduate college in its own right and students/alums are rightfully proud of these distinctive and flavorful institutions. None need a Harvard or Ivy label to add legitimacy or status, except perhaps to those ignorant of their qualities and charms and the lifelong positives of these Southern universities. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, some of this nescience and insecurity can be seen on CC, particularly from those hailing from insulated locales (especially non-USA) and who have had little to no exposure to Southern colleges and know only a handful of American colleges (most of which are prominent due to their graduate school prowess and not for their undergraduate quality). This is changing as today’s admissions numbers require applicants to cast a broader net and more non-Southern students are ending up at Duke, Emory et al. As a result of this, maybe greater understanding and appreciation will follow, not to mention a fuller realization of the uselessness of questions such as which is the Harvard of the XXX region.</p>
<p>This may be the dumbest thread yet, and that is saying something. Scipio and hawkette both have it right. There is only one Harvard (and one Stanford and one Chicago and one Duke and one Rice and one Tulane, etc.) and anyone with an ounce of brains dropped the whole “Harvard of the XXX region” years ago.</p>
<p>I know most of you took this thread in a lighthearted way, but it is deeply disturbing to see the posts that take it seriously. JWT86 is especially hilarious and frightening at the same time.</p>
<p>Here is a list from an older thread post of mine listing SOME (not all inclusive) of the good schools in the South. </p>
<p>Entering Classes for 2008
Test Name High Low Avg.
Test Score Ranges (Mid 50%)</p>
<p>DUKE
SAT Combined: 1,540 1,340 1,440
ACT Composite: 34 29 31</p>
<p>RICE
SAT Combined: 1,530 1,320 1,425
ACT Composite: 34 30 32</p>
<p>VANDERBILT
SAT Combined: 1,500 1,330 1,415
ACT Composite: 33 30 31</p>
<p>EMORY
SAT Combined: 1,470 1,300 1,385
ACT Composite: 33 29 31 </p>
<p>DAVIDSON
SAT Combined: 1,458 1,270 1,364
ACT Composite: 32 28 30</p>
<p>TULANE
SAT Combined: 1,420 1,260 1,340
ACT Composite: 31 28 29 </p>
<p>UVA
SAT Combined: 1,440 1,220 1,330
ACT Composite: 32 27 29</p>
<p>GEORGIA TECH
SAT Combined: 1,420 1,240 1,330
ACT Composite: 31 27 29</p>
<p>WAKE FOREST
SAT Combined: 1,400 1,240 1,320
ACT Composite: 31 27 29</p>
<p>UNC
SAT Combined: 1,400 1,210 1,305
ACT Composite: 31 26 28</p>
<p>RHODES
SAT Combined: 1360 1200 1280
ACT Combined: 30 26 28</p>
<p>MILLSAPS
SAT Combined: 1,320 1,060 1,190
ACT Composite: 29 23 26</p>
<p>MERCER
SAT Combined: 1,290 1,080 1,185
ACT Composite: 29 23 26</p>
<p>I feel less intelligent already for posting. :)</p>
<p>Ben, you crack me up. Hope everything is well with you and your fiancee. I did get that right, didn’t? I think I remember you saying you have a fiancee.</p>
<p>Thanks. Yep, we get married this May.</p>
<p>“<<<cuny as=”" poor=“” man’s=“” harvard=“” is=“” hilarious.=“” i’ve=“” heard=“” that=“” term=“” before=“” actually.=“”>>></cuny></p>
<p>Tell that to the 14 Nobel prize winners who have emerged from CUNY."</p>
<p>Well just because a school isn’t prestigious doesn’t mean that it’s graduates can’t be extremely successful. CUNY is not by any means prestigious though, and their funding is really lacking. They’re safeties for the most part.</p>