<p>^That is hilarious. So the south starts just below Chicago? I never knew.</p>
<p>[What</a> is the “greasy-greazy line” and the “pail/bucket line”?](<a href=“http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question113060.html]What”>What is the "greasy-greazy line" and the "pail/bucket line"?)</p>
<p>living in california, reading this is pretty interesting, i think we can all agree that vandy is the best of everything though: top school, top party school, ranked football team(sec), nice campus…</p>
<p>my cousin goes to michigan, and he has a tshirt that says: harvard, the michigan of the east</p>
<p>To many Southerners Harvard is too far North. Bostonians have very strange accents too. Princeton is a very popular choice among Southerners.</p>
<p>Harvard of the South? Princeton.</p>
<p>rjk – I think there’s a burrito-burrido line as well. Burrito, with a slight pause before the “t” like “buh-REE-toe” is more Southern, and I’ve heard “buh-REED-o” from many people who moved from elsewhere. I’m certainly on the bucket/greazy/blouze side of the line you mention.</p>
<p>Haha! Never heard that one before about US 30. Hardly!</p>
<p>To clarify Pizzagirl; US 30 runs east and west farther south in Ohio, where I use it as the reference point, than in Illinois. In Illinois and Indiana, I would have to name US 24 as the greasy/greasy line. Remember too that there are plenty of areas in the so called midlands that are more southern than midwestern in speech patterns. ;-)</p>
<p>I didnt even know where Duke was until I looked it up. I only know it as a basketball school. </p>
<p>Vanderbilt has the most credible and long-lived claim on the “Harvard of the South” moniker. Any school (including Vandy) that attempts to build its own image up by laying claim to the prestige and reputation of another school is very misguided indeed.</p>
<p>^ What exactly are you saying? Duke isn’t a good school because you’re ignorant? If you hadn’t heard of Harvard would it not still be a great university? Stop making yourself look stupid.</p>
<p>Rankings wise, Duke does significantly better than Vanderbilt. This is especially notable in the international scene, where V’s rankings are abysmal. Part of being Harvard means ‘being Harvard’ around the world, so international presence is important. And in that regard i think Duke has a better claim to being ‘the Harvard of the South’ than Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>@ GailForce</p>
<p>Nowhere in my post did I say that Duke was not a good school. All I did say was that I know very little about the school. I can even own that I am “ignorant” of that school.</p>
<p>The discussion was focused on the origins of the moniker “Harvard of the South” until some decided to divert it into a “my school is better than your school” contest. I am not attacking Duke.</p>
<p>Relax, snuggle with your Duke sweatshirt, and take a deep cleansing breath.</p>
<p>Duke probably is the Harvard of the South, but I don’t think anyone at Duke wants that moniker.</p>
<p>I’ve heard the term before. In my opinion, (and the opinion of everyone else I know) the term “Harvard of the South” applies to Vanderbilt, and only Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>Refer to: [Urban</a> Dictionary: Harvard of the South](<a href=“http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Harvard%20of%20the%20South]Urban”>Urban Dictionary: Harvard of the South)</p>
<p>That’s just one example. It may not be the most reliable, but it does say Vanderbilt is the “Harvard of the South”. Twice.</p>
<p>The South starts at the Mason-Dixon line. Most posters are equating rural with “South” which is incorrect. If you want to distinguish geography from culture/dialect differences then that would be a different discussion.</p>
<p>Geographically the Mason-Dixon line ends the conversation.</p>
<p>As a Maryland resident, I have to disagree with “The South starts at the Mason Dixon Line”. </p>
<p>I think that people referring to “the South”, are generally thinking of either 1) States that broke away during the civil war, or 2) States that are culturally “Southern”. Maryland is neither. Culturally we have much more in common with other mid Atlantic states such as Delaware and Pennsylvania, and we fought with the Union. </p>
<p>It also drives me crazy when schools try and create their reputation by comparing them to something else. Vanderbilt is a fantastic school. It doesn’t need to be thought of as an imitation of Harvard to get respect. It’s worthy of a great reputation on it’s own.</p>
<p>I also hate the phrase “public Ivies” for the same reason.</p>
<p>This type of classification seems pointless to me. By that logic…I could call my school the “Harvard of central Lee County, Illinois,” on the basis that it’s the best community college in my immediate area. </p>
<p>The need to justify going to a school like Duke or Rice by branding it as the “Harvard of _______” seems unnecessary to me. Those are excellent schools. Why do they need to justify themselves?</p>
<p>Actually, the Harvard of the south refers to the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss). Since Ole Miss was one of the only southern colleges around for a period of time, Harvard and Ole Miss had a rivalry</p>
<p>So can we now refer to Harvard as the “Ole Miss” of the north?
I kind of love that idea ;)</p>
<p>^ Hahaha. ;)</p>