Harvard vs Princeton Vs Columbia for UG in CS and Business

@tk21769 Business Econ is a new area under Economics at UChicago.

@HoustonTxDad: While Texas & Rice look promising, I think that applying to 12 schools might be a better course of action than applying to just nine schools as those seeking to major in CS tend to have very high standardized test scores.

Based on what you shared about your daughter in this thread, there is little more than superb standardized test scores.

Also if she intends to go to grad school, it is easier to get into a top business school by NOT being an undergrad business major.

However, note that direct admission to CS there is very competitive.

Direct admission to CS is very competitive almost everywhere–isn’t it ? Or am I mistaken ?

@CU123: Good point. I think that is among the reasons why so many one year “specialty masters programs” have been developed in the past few years. Also, it is a major reason why Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Business created a one year MBA option.

There are many courses that are best taught after one has worked for a few years after undergraduate school.

Not everywhere. For example, Wisconsin CS is easy to declare (earn a C in a CS course) after enrolling as undeclared, so it is not likely that direct admission to CS will be harder than admission to the school, unless direct admission is not offered (but then it is not really a problem, since it is easy to declare CS after enrolling).

https://www.cs.wisc.edu/academics/undergraduate-programs/how-prepare-cs-major

If one starts looking at (numerous) less selective schools, many of them do not have CS as more competitive than the school overall. For example, of the 22 CSUs that offer CS, only 9 of them have CS listed as “impacted” (i.e. more competitive than the school overall), leaving 13 where CS is no more competitive than the school overall.

https://www.calstate.edu/sas/documents/impactedprogramsmatrix.pdf

Of course, even at some schools where CS is more competitive than the school overall, it may not be so competitive that a student for whom Harvard and the like are realistic (as opposed to unrealistic) reaches would find them too difficult to get into for CS.

I think that a section dealing with careers would be very helpful to both parents & students in formulating a plan that includes not only college & university study, but also career advice and whether or not graduate or professional school should be considered. This should help alleviate stress from the unknown & help create a realistic budget if graduate school is expected or required in order to advance one’s career.

Isn’t Penn M&T ideal for this?

Sorry for late response back.

@Publisher Thank you for suggesting Northwestern, we visited NW during my older D application time as she was applying for BS/MD program. While the school and surrounding neighborhood resonated well with girls, but lake bank frigid cold is weather is NO for my younger one. Also her HS, counselors don’t like to see LOT of applications going out for multiple reasons (I understand their concerns and very considerate of them), so we are trying our best to limit to 9 applications.

@Imao2018 Yes, Penn M&T is at the VERY top of her list among the 9 applications.

I do want to thank rest of the contributors for your thoughts and time.

We sent her SAT scores to all 9 universities (Harvard is the 9th as she can do double concentration in CS and Statistics (she is interested in analytics aspect)).

I do have one question about AP scores, do applicants send their official AP scores from College Board as part of application process OR only after admission do students send those AP scores to get course credits? She took 9APs and got 5 in seven and 4 in two (capstone/research) already and is taking 6 in the senior year. Your thoughts are much appreciated.

Thank you!!

For most of the top colleges you self report the scores in the Common App and then submit the official scores after you matriculate for credit (sometimes) and/or placement.

Personally, I would not get hung up majoring/minoring in business. I would choose to apply to schools and then attend the school that best fits her CS, overall educational and personal interest/goals. In fact, many of the most successful entrepreneurs were anything but traditional business school graduates. If she wants to attend BSchool after she finishes, there will be plenty of opportunities (might have to work a couple of years for the top ones).

Thank you very much @BKSquared