<p>Bay~ I’m one of them (non DOD) waiting for a CR. Yes, personally affected.</p>
<p>I am patiently waiting to hear if BIL will travel the 600+ miles to start at his new gvt job with a late Oct start date. Their house is listed for sale. His wife is furloughed. My guess is that things are getting stressful at their home.</p>
<p>Thanks HImom. I’m not worried now. But I’m really feeling for everyone who has to live with so much uncertainty.</p>
<p>It’s very tough for many dealing with uncertainty. One of our local banks is allowing extra time for furloughed or fed workers who aren’t being paid. I think that’s very considerate–not sure whether there are going to be any charges, but hope the shutdown ends very soon to minimize pain everywhere.</p>
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<p>You probably don’t know this, so as an FYI, some government employees, especially those with security clearances, are required to get approval for ANY other work. If you take another job without going through the appropriate channels, you can lose your clearance (which means not only do you lose your job, but you lose your entire career path). And, there is no one to currently approve any secondary employment.</p>
<p>Wow, I’ve never heard about having to get approval for getting secondary job, but I can see how that could affect a security clearance. Good to know.</p>
<p>I work at the State level and my entire staff needs approval to work any part time job.</p>
<p>I know a younger woman whose husband is a federal employee, and they’ve taken their toddler out of daycare. They don’t know whether their child’s space will be there when he needs to go back, and they’re not sure whether the daycare center will have to lay off employees if federal workers withdraw their kids. As boysx3 says, this is having a serious effect on the local economy.</p>
<p>The stories here anecdotally support a new paper that argues uncertainty is a shock to demand. That contradicts the argument one often hears - and which is often stated dogmatically - that uncertainty is a supply shock.</p>
<p>The first local sign of the apocalypse here (sorry, I mean the shutdown) was a sign at our local bit of National Forest land (where I went to walk the dog today) saying that no services were being provided and to please pack out your trash. Sadly, people were still using the trash cans and they were overflowing.</p>
<p>Uncertainty has a deleterious effect on consumer confidence and thus they stop spending. </p>
<p>[US</a> consumer confidence caves since government shutdown - FT.com](<a href=“Subscribe to read | Financial Times”>Subscribe to read | Financial Times)</p>
<p>Oh, man, I feel stupid. I forgot until just now when I was catching up with this thread that I filed an amended tax return a few weeks ago. Got a K-1 that came late with a huge loss I was able to take on my taxes, and expect to get almost $5,000 in additional refund. I was just checking my bank account and wondering when it will show up… then realized that of course the IRS is not working on my refund due to the shutdown. Now who knows when it will come. 
I was hoping to use it for a roof repair I need before it snows…</p>
<p>^ which means that there’s a roofer who is not earning that money from you, and there’s a dentist not working on the roofer’s kid’s braces, and so on and so on.</p>
<p>intparent - did you get a notice that your tax return was accepted? I read somewhere they will process incoming payments but not outgoing. Someone told me today they filed a return last week, were told by some online processor it will be acknowledged in a week or so but got a notification within an hour that the return was processed.</p>
<p>^^I can verify that they are processing incoming payments. They didn’t cash my check the day they received it, like usual, but they did cash it a couple of days later. Funny how they can staff enough people to take your money, but not enough to refund it.</p>
<p>DW’s family owns some farmland in the Midwest. Like many farmers/farm owners, they’re baffled about what the lack of a federal budget means for farming, and indirectly for food prices. Apparently there’s a 1949 “permanent” federal law that automatically kicks in if and when the “temporary” farm bill expires, which it did when Congress failed to enact a budget with a farm bill last week. Under the 1949 law, commodity production restrictions were much stricter and federal price supports were much higher than under the recently expired farm bill. As a consequence, some are predicting that the price of milk and other dairy products could double or triple, and the prices of other commodity crops like wheat and corn could also increase sharply. But farmers and the people who advise them–the latter mostly furloughed USDA employees–are pretty clueless about how this is all supposed to work because very few of them were around in 1949.</p>
<p>[Minn</a>. farmers get lost in budget standoff; crop policies revert to '49 | Star Tribune](<a href=“http://www.startribune.com/nation/226683921.html]Minn”>http://www.startribune.com/nation/226683921.html)</p>
<p>No, I am not affected. The reason - they forgot to cover the statue of Liberty. Yes, here is a loopwhole in the schema of making everybody vey inconvinient. Well, if it continues, I bet they will spend few tens of thousands to correct this mistake, I bet they will!!!</p>
<p>It just occured to me that those of us with rental properties who accept section 8 vouchers are probably not going to be paid in November if the shutdown continues.</p>
<p>I wonder if we will receive back pay rent when everything is resolved.</p>
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Amended returns are not efiled. No notice is sent that it is accepted. Just your refund.</p>
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<p>Well, I admire you for taking section 8 renters. If you are lucky you can find a good one, but for the most part they are horrible ungrateful tenants. If they destroy your property, the feds say you can sue them for what that is worth. </p>
<p>If you have a contract permitting a late fee, you should be able to charge a late fee and force the govt to pay it.</p>