<p>It is seriously sad that people still have these flawed views of who homosexual people are. If you only look at the select group of gay people who ride on parade floats and all other sorts of things, you will never see the normal ones. That is exactly why the homosexual people who are exactly like every other person of their gender are scared to tell people they are gay, because that automatically throws them into the same pool of float riding faeries. The whole “raise guys to be masculine and women to be feminine” thing is complete crap, because every homosexual guy doesn’t want to go shopping or pick out some fabulous drapes for your house. There are a lot of us that play sports and are into doing a ton of things considered masculine. Please don’t misjudge a huge portion of homosexuals for those who choose broadcast their sexuality (although I have nothing against other gay people who are more out than I am, more power to them).</p>
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<p>Not only that but it also constrains men, straight and gay and otherwise, who are interested in typically “feminine” hobbies to a particular sphere of activity. And likewise it restricts women who are more inclined towards “masculine” activities to more feminine jobs/tasks/lifestyles. In short, this type of thinking is the type of thinking that impedes the movement for gender equality.</p>
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<p>Out of curiousity do you feel the same way about couples who choose not to have kids, or who can’t have kids for medical reasons (like a hysterectomy or cancer treatment)? And just to ask the obvious here, if it’s “pleasing” for them to be gay, who is it hurting? Why stop them? There are a lot of lifestyles I would never choose for myself- like, living in a really rural town, or owning a pet parrot, or being an engineer- but I could care less if that’s what other people enjoy doing.</p>
<p>@neltharion Couldn’t have said it better myself</p>
<p>I’m doing APUSH homework now, and there’s a section on the KKK. it mentioned they are antipacifists. How’s that for irony.</p>
<p>I am the OP of this subject, and I tried to not get involved in this heated thread, but I must say… I have no respect for you what so ever, antipacifist.</p>
<p>I generally accept the people as who they are & try to hear out their opinions and such, but you are just full of *****. What you are saying is so hypocritical, and if there is one perfect adjective to describe each and every individual alive in this planet, yours would be ignorant.</p>
<p>Antipacifist, good luck with your life because you need it. Unless you are gay/lesbian who can’t accept who you really are, you really shouldn’t have expressed your blockheaded opinions on here.</p>
<p>And for itachirumon, I have so much respect for you for being so patient and intellectual about this matter. You supported your arguments very wisely, and I must say they were all very convincing.</p>
<p>Okay not going to add to whatever’s going on in here right now, but to answer OP’s question, I would be okay with it. I mean I definitely wouldn’t want her having sex with girls while I’m there but that applies to a straight girl having sex with a guy too. </p>
<p>I don’t have a problem with gay/lesbians but I would feel awkward and uncomfortable if I was hearing sex sounds and stuff from their bed.</p>
<p>I think for the majority people, it’s going to rely more on the personality of the person. If someone is very militant about it and makes a huge announcement and puts you on the defensive immediately, there will most likely be problems, but that would happen with almost any topic (religion, politics, etc).</p>
<p>If the gay roommate acts fairly laid back and doesn’t make an issue out of it, most people (with some exceptions, of course) probably won’t care and will be more concerned with other things like neat/messy, loud/quiet, early morning/late night kind of potential conflicts.</p>
<p>@shyuk92 – Thank you. I deal with that kind of stuff on a daily basis, not from home or college of course lol… but I see the argument a lot in debates so I’m used to having to repeat those things a lot, which leads me to having to research more and have more to say. The Reparative Therapy thing scares the living hell out of me, the people who advocate that have no idea whatsoever what goes on there, thank God I don’t either but I’ve read, and it’s really effing horrifying. It’s frightening to think people advocate it at all. It’s abuse, really awful abuse, and if it takes me my entire life I’m going to use my Ph.D to see it outlawed on a federal level. No legit Psych organization will practice it, or allow their member psychologists to practice it, but you still get these fringey people who think it’s an okay practice, with very circumstantial support/biased studies.</p>
<p>Itachirumon, if you’ve done research, then you should know that sexual preference isn’t an absolute but instead based on a continuum, those in the middle obviously being bisexual. For instance, using a numerical system, a 1 could represent homosexuality and a 10 could represent heterosexuality (or reverse the numbers, it doesn’t matter). People who may fall as an 8 or 9 on the scale yet have gay experiences will not have as strong a preference for their own sex as someone who falls on the opposite end. Therefore, for these people, some kind of those “therapies” may actually help repress the gay tendencies. I am not at all arguing for therapy to “cure” gays in any way at all, but it may help explain why some people allegedly can change.</p>
<p>Most people falling at the extreme ends of the spectrum have no more control over their preferences for same/opposite sex than they do for their preference for oxygen.</p>
<p>I think the continuum therapy explains a lot about our sexualities. All gays don’t have the same intensity of preference.</p>
<p>^Kinsey’s research, more or less. I did say it was complex right? Very few people are ever 100% one way or the other, honestly. And there’s a very big difference between therapy to help you come to terms with how you feel, and therapy to “fix” something that isn’t broken. I would argue that it’s a bad idea to repress anything if it’s a part of you. What you’re advocating I don’t believe falls under “reparative therapy” and may be beneficial to some extent. I made a mistake though when I mentioned the “Only 3 kinds of successes” earlier, the reparative therapy only appears to work on “people who were faking it for the sake of the reserch/never gay to start with, repressing it, or bisexuals who just fell into one of the dichotomies” I forgot to add the last one.</p>
<p>Jazzpark is right about the continuum. </p>
<p>On gurlz.com (or gurls??) they have a continuum, and on each point of the continuum they have real girls explain how they feel/define themselves.</p>
<p>In response to the OP’s question, I wouldn’t judge how I felt around anyone based on characteristics of themselves which they cannot change. I feel this is the same as asking how I would feel if I had a black, white, asian, etc… roomate. I could only give you a definitive answer based on an individual and their personal qualities, and not based the stereotypical qualities of the group they fall in. </p>
<p>This is just how I see things. Feel free to agree or disagree but that’s all I have to say :).</p>
<p>Sorry that you’re so full of contempt for me, OP. There’s not much I can do about it except say that I’m glad you feel so strongly about something. We disagree and that’s OK. And no I am NOT gay/lesbian.</p>
<p>In response to the OP, I would only mind if they were bringing random strangers in the room and having sex with them at all hours of the day and night. I would mind that from anybody of any orientation, honestly.
I don’t understand how two gay people are “all about pleasure” when they fall and love and want the same rights as everyone else. There’s more to love than just sex- much more. There are shared interests and experiences, thought-provoking conversation…the list goes on. The kind of love that exists between two men or two women is the same kind that exists between a man and a woman: it’s just expressed in a different way.</p>