Having second thoughts about Berkeley

Probably depends on the school. UMich LSA dept. told parents that 75-85% change their majors at least once.

Itsgettingreal17 - I cant speak about the nationwide statistics, but UCs and top competitive schools use this tactic to fill there less popular and less impacted majors.

Cu123 - I’m am in total agreement - you nailed it. Already making plans for sophomore transfer

I personally think it’s a bad strategy what you’re trying to do. You should just take a gap year and reapply to other schools with direct admit if you don’t feel your daughter is up to snuff, rather than trying to plan on transferring during the school year. If she stays at Berkeley and winds up having a great GPA she’ll likely get into Haas, (mean GPA is around 3.7) but if she doesn’t, she’s probably not going to be able to transfer into any name school close to Berkeley. If entry was based on lottery as is the case with some majors at some schools, I would say screw it, it’s a bad situation, but here you do have control.

When you factor out all the kids who apply anyhow even though they don’t have the qualifications, the acceptance rate is more closer to 40-50% for internal students. Plus as mentioned above it is very common to change your mind about a major, especially something as broad as business. The term “impacted major” is nowhere as bad as you think and impacts transfer students more than incoming freshmen. The GPA mins are nothing unreasonable, not even L&S CS which is by far the most impacted.

The actual statistics are right there: 30-40% who apply, who are already there, get accepted. That does not include the ones who changed their majors so didn’t bother to apply, or dropped out of Berkeley.

Change of major stats do not include those who drop out, by the way or transfer. Just those who stay put in a changed major.

I probably overreacted with the “transfer” comment. Its disappointing when you realize that your kiddo has to enter that cutthroat environment on day one of college and doesn’t have the liberty of hitting any speed bumps along the way. AND even if she pulls it all out perfectly could be part of that 60-70 percent. I mean - were not talking about MED school here!

I don’t anything about the program, but at with what I now know about these conditional programs , I’d certainly bring up the drawback of any to those considering them, but once a college student is in such a program, I’d give it a positive spin and encourage it. Your DD might do very well there. Might not want to leave. Might want to stay at Berkeley even if it doesn’t look good to get into the next step. A lot of things happen in college.

Not hitting any speed bumps is a risk for all prospective business students. By that logic, getting an internship or job after college is a cutthroat environment not just for Berkeley Haas, but for any business school.
NYU may let you into Stern right away, but the job prospect may be tougher than Berkeley as I notice Stern has over 2,500 undergrads while Haas is right at 700.