<p>you should consider Santa Barbara</p>
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<p>What is your budget? How much will your parents spend each year???</p>
<p>YOU WILL NOT PAY INSTATE TUITION> YOU WILL PAY $45,000 per year all FOUR YEARS.</p>
<p>Are you ignoring the posts that say that?</p>
<p>YOU WILL NOT PAY INSTATE TUITION> YOU WILL PAY $45,000 per year all FOUR YEARS.</p>
<p>YOU WILL NOT PAY INSTATE TUITION.</p>
<p>Does this affect your plans?</p>
<p>You will not pay instate tuition.</p>
<p>I wonder if the OP knows he will not pay instate tuition??? :)</p>
<p>I think the OP is engaging in wishful thinking because he has his heart set on Calif schools. </p>
<p>If he doesn’t face facts, he’s going to be one of these students who will be posting next summer with a big bill and no means to pay it.</p>
<p>OP, for sure look at other privates in California. USC, Pomona, and Occidental would all put you in or near Los Angeles. </p>
<p>The UCs simply aren’t worth it for you. UT-Austin in-state is a much better deal. Talk to more students there than just your brother, especially in the departments you’re interested in, to find out what internship placement is like at those schools. Or ask on the UT board here on CC to get some more opinions.</p>
<p>I think it would be funny if OP posted here again and pretended to not see the posts about full OOS tuition at the UCs :)</p>
<p>^^ haha thank you all… by far the most entertaining thread I have made so far… Indeed I understand I will play OOS fees for 4 years… my parents said it depends how the FAFSA goes and they will pay as much as they can and take a loan under their name to pay the rest… they have their minds set on paying for my post secondary school educational experience…</p>
<p>whew! That’s a relief.</p>
<p>Back to your question then, I think UC Irvine, which is in the center of Orange County, would offer the most internship opportunities. It’s also a really nice campus, with 5 min. drive of the ocean.</p>
<p>my parents said it depends how the FAFSA goes and they will pay as much as they can and take a loan under their name to pay the rest…</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>Are they expecting to get some aid because of FAFSA? It sounds like they are. You’ll get nothing except a student loan.</p>
<p>I think you need to ask your parents if they are prepared to borrow/pay $200k.</p>
<p>^^ Why won’t I get anything?</p>
<p>In general, oos students at the UCs get whatever *federal aid *for which they are eligible, which may include a Pell grant awarded on a sliding scale to students with FAFSA EFCs of beween $0 EFC (Pell=$5,500) and $5,273 EFC (Pell=$555) and a Stafford loan of $3,500 subs plus $2,000 unsubs.</p>
<p>If your EFC is $0, that adds up to, at most, $11,000. If your EFC is $5,274 or more, the most you will receive is the $3,500 subs and $2,000 unsubs Stafford. With an estimated oos cost of attendance of ~$50,000, that leaves $39,000 to $44,500 per year to be covered. In-state students would be eligible for UC grants (institutional aid), but those are generally not available to out of state students (because the *taxpayers of California *insist that their tax dollars go to their children, not to oos kids).</p>
<p>This is why we come on here to say, over and over, to oos students that if they would like to attend a public university in California, they should be prepared to pay full oos cost. Unfortunately many applicants find this out in April when their financial aid package is presented and it is then too late to apply to schools more likely to offer them institutional financial aid.</p>
<p>This will probably fall on deaf ears, but I wouldn’t want to go to UCI or UCD over UT-Austin even if the costs were the same. I’d probably also take UT-Austin over UCSD. With the cost differential, it’s a no-brainer.</p>
<p>I understand that the OP wants to get out of Texas and experience a different part of the country. And there’s something to be said for that. But it’s not worth tens of thousands of dollars in debt. You can always move to California later for work or grad school (where they pay you).</p>
<p>Moreover, given the state of the CA economy and the UC budget crisis, it’s not clear to me that enrolling at the UCs now (especially OOS) would be the wisest move. Keep in mind that if you do get accepted to the UCs, it may partially be due to the fact that the UCs need your OOS tuition. </p>
<p>Lastly, IIRC, UT-Austin has successfully recruited several faculty members from the UCs in recent years. UT-Austin just seems to be in a better financial situation than the UCs in general. It wouldn’t be completely surprising if in the foreseeable future UT-Austin could approach UC Berkeley/UCLA status because of the latter’s potential decline.</p>
<p>Now if you’re coming from a state with a relatively lackluster higher education system, then perhaps your return on investment may have a better chance of paying off. But from Texas of all places, your financial and educational strategy seems slightly irrational and bizarre.</p>
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<p>Okay, now that I’ve read this, your plans make even less sense. I can’t say for UCI, but I know that the primary strengths for UCD and UCSD lie in the (biological) sciences. My guess is that UT-Austin would be better for your interests in history, poli-sci, etc. It doesn’t seem as if you’ve done adequate research on your own and you’re expecting others to do it for you. Not only that, but also you don’t even seem to heed the advice you ask for.</p>
<p>I can just maybe understand parents taking out massive loans to pay for an OOS student to attend Berkeley or UCLA. It makes absolutely no sense to do that for Davis, Irvine or San Diego.</p>
<p>spt.leonidas, you were given this same information back in January on a thread you started on the Financial Aid forum. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/847712-income-range-fafsa-question.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/847712-income-range-fafsa-question.html</a> Please re-read your thread. Please note that the responses to you on that thread said clearly that for you, the UCs would cost ~$50,000 and that, as an out of state student the most you could expect in financial aid was Stafford loans. (Please see posts #2 and #3.)</p>
<p>I hope to major in Accounting, Political Science or History. So based on my choice of major and my stats which one is a better fit?</p>
<p>Ok…I’m going to be a bit harsh so watch out… :)</p>
<p>It is absolutely insane to even be considering paying $200k for a UC school for one of those majors…really insane.</p>
<p>You are in major denial about the facts. YOU WILL NOT GET AID from a UC school. If your EFC is under 5000 (which is unlikely), you will get some Pell money - which is less than $5600 (and that is from the feds, not from a UC). That is hardly enough to pay the $50k to go to a UC.</p>
<p>You seem to be under some wildly mistaken impression that if your EFC is less than COA then a UC is going to give you aid. No they won’t! They don’t give aid to OOS students. They don’t even give aid to most instate students whose families are middle-class. They only give money to those whose INSTATE families have low EFC and lowish family incomes. Period.</p>