You have zero interest in SUNY buffalo or stony brook, right? I think vandy is a loooong shot. Myos1634, why are you suggesting he beat a dead horse? Cornell said decisions are final! You are giving way too much weight to the president of a CC. If the President can call Rochester on your behalf, then definitely have him call. What other schools are u thinking about that do not have a formal deadline?
MYOS is correct.
@educateddarcy I do not mean to rag on Binghamton, it is a good school. My parents think of it as it was in the 1980s when the top students went there and it was considered a real public ivy and the state flagship. Now New York really does not have a state flagship, different programs for different things, such as Macauley, Baruch etc. Albany used to be second only to Bi and is not anymore. Due to the new Stem scholarship which will make these schools tuition free I think they will go up in profile.
When I started this process a year ago my parents said I could go to Bi or any of the other SUNYs or if I got into a significantly better school (however that is defined, top 30ish I guess) I could go there. I suppose if I had decided to apply to a peer of Binghamton and gotten money to make it affordable they would have been ok. I was discouraged from applying to the other state flagships (PennS, Maryland, Delaware) other than Michigan because my parents did not see the point of OOS. So the stradegy was that I would get in early to Bi and then just apply to very competitive schools. Fortunately it worked but my parents had no idea until I started hanging out here that Binghamton was in the lower 25 of US News Top 100 and that PennS, Maryland were much higher ranked. I do not think that was true when they went to college although both went to private schools and did early something so only applied to that one school anyway so perhaps that was a false impression. A lot of my friend’s very successful parents went to Binghamton and Albany and lots of great kids still go there. Several of my friends picked it over top 20 colleges or had trouble deciding. It still has a great reputation in the suburbs. As for the OP, it is a good place and worth considering
What is MYOS correct about?
Her advice to the OP to have the Dean of her college use their connections to get her in someplace good
Yes, I agree, but I think Cornell is a done deal
Phone calls are free these days
He called and they said their denial was final decision. Maybe he can get in for fall 2016. Don’t piss them off!
I do think calling Cornell is a waste of time because OP self sabotaged by calling her rep and asking “would you change you my end if my cc”'s president called?" Obviously the rep answered no and now everuone’locked due to that rookie mistake.
However it doesn’t mean the cc’s president can’t call another school on ops behalf, preferably in the state or among contacts. Truth is, Buffalo and sb can be excellent schools but neither is where a 4.0 student in economics should go if possible.opportunities are better at Baruch than at SB for that field, even if I wouldn’t recommend Baruch due to its very commuter culture. Op could try some f the nescac schools, most are strong in economics, especially Hamilton and Colgate, which may be within the cc’s preaident’s network. i
Just a clarification point…
Colgate is not a NESCAC school which is a small school/DIII varsity sports league and is rather distinctive in nature. Colgate is larger than almost all of them at 2950 students (but with a 9:1 student:faculty ratio) and is a DI school in athletics with its ECAC finalist position in men’s ice hockey and in the middle of the higher caliber competitive DI Patriot League with championships or runner-up positions in women’s soccer and men’s lacrosse during this academic year.
A visit to Colgate makes a big impression given it magnificent campus, charming, the safe small Village of Hamilton, and also its new construction: the athletic center, arts and cultural center in the village and career planning center- all deliverables for 2016. In 2015 Colgate introduces the first of its Residential Colleges, a smart alternative to its 8 Greek houses and 9 themed houses.
I can appreciate that Colgate has many features in common with the NESCAC schools. To me it does have more in common with them than with most of the Patriot schools- Army, Navy, American, Boston Univ, Loyola Maryland, Lehigh, Lafayette, Bucknell, Holy Cross and some associates such as Georgetown in football). But its application pool does not overlap as much as it does with the Ivys and certain schools generally larger than itself, while the caliber of Colgate’s accepted students is at the top of the Patriot League schools.
Go 'gate!
What is especially wrong with Buffalo, Binghamton, or Stony Brook for a 4.0 student in economics? Math intensity in economics at those schools is typical (single variable calculus, like Cornell), as opposed to low (like Penn State and Florida State).
yes, this was a mistake. This was not a conversation for the OP to have with the rep himself. That was futile and embarrassing. Of course the answer to that question is going to be no, duh. I am disappointed he did not take the good advice about how to proceed. Having someone call on his behalf would possibly yield good information for next round. Perhaps he had other things in his application that showed a lack of good sense.
OP now is the time to finish college. If you start working and do well and continue and you will find like many others that there is a ceiling as to how far you can go. Sometimes that comes 15 years later. I know many people who became unpromotable in their business because of lacking a degree and then were stuck with families and mortgages and little way to finish off the last couple of years. It can be done but it is harder, and you choices where you can go limited.
I admit mentioning my pres to Cornell was a rather foolish mistake. I probably panicked after he wouldn’t budge and mentioned it as an act of desperation.
Any news?
Hey, thanks for checking up. Well, the Cornell issue is out the window. However, Johns Hopkins called a week ago saying that they made their decision before the official valedictorian document was received. It didn’t count as an appeal. So, they would send it to the admissions team for further review despite the admissions rep acknowledging I was already rejected. I also sent my final semester grades in addition to a copy of my speech. Not sure if that’s allowed but it couldn’t hurt at this point.
At this point I’m not sure what to expect. Will they notify me if I’ve been rejected again?
If you don’t hear back, assume you’ve been rejected.
Thanks for the update!
Sorry to say but I really doubt being named Val will change an admission decision.
See if anyone at your college has contacts with admissions at JHU and ELSEWHERE and take their advice as to how to proceed. Unless no help is available to you, stop trying to proceed on your own. Part of your tuition goes to administration and guidance, let them work for you. At the right place it means a lot when someone who has been in this business for 20 years calls an admissions person at a college that they know and who knows them and says, this person is an extraordinary student in my experience and you will be happy you accepted this person because etc.
At graduation, I met senator Charles Schumer who visits the college every year. I’ve considered writing a letter to him for his recommendation.
If JHU doesn’t work out, I’ve made peace with the possibility of not attending college for the fall semester. I’ll work full time and then reapply to Cornell for spring as well as NYU CAS Econ. CAS probably has around a reasonable 30% transfer acceptance rate if you subtract Stern’s ridiculously low rate.
You think a state senator is going to write a recommendation for someone he met at a graduation?