<p>I loved reading about the history of the UGa bulldog mascots. The history and traditions surrounding it all are interesting and the epitaphs of the mascots are cool. <a href=“Uga (mascot) - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uga_(mascot)</a> If you are interested in seeing the info, click on Uga(mascot) under the Education heading when you enter the link. It’s off topic but SomeOldGuy brought the mascots up and it is interesting to see the history.</p>
<p>Lol at the hillbillies discussion.
@beckstiles The issues you mention aren’t exclusive to UGA. Universities as a whole don’t want students to report sexual assaults or football player crimes because then they’d have to deal with bad PR. </p>
<p>GMT, regarding residency issues for US citizens working or living abroad; I have vague memories of the Elizabeth Taylor case from my days in the classroom. For you lawyers out there, Liz’s case was a matter of civil procedure law. She was in effect, a U.S. citizen but a citizen of no state (while she was filming ‘Cleopatra’ with husband Dickie, I think). I believe she won her case.</p>
<p>Hey Zeus of the Midwest, er…I mean Beckstiles, please spare us your thunderbolts of wisdom, which you cast down upon us ordinary terrestrials from your perch in the Olympian hills and hollers of Michigan.</p>
<p>Elizabeth Taylor had duel British/US citizenship.</p>
<p>She did, however, renounce her US citizenship at one point in her life.</p>
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<p>I have two inlaws who are native born US citizens living abroad. One left the US as an infant and has never resided here since. The other left the US as an adult, after having resided in several different states as a child and adult. Both are registered US voters in their state of last residence (which in the case of the first mentioned is his birth state, and in the second case, not his birth state but the last one in which he resided before emigrating). For voting purposes it seems expats always have a state. However for college tuition it sounds more tricky, per GMT.</p>
<p>Bless your heart generally means: ‘You poor thing, you just don’t know any better.’ It is a term of genuine pity for the ignorance of others, often Yankees. </p>
<p>Lake Washington if I read the case law correctly, the Liz Taylor thing only established that she could be sued in Federal Court. The case did not hinge upon anything to do with her citizenship status, so winning and losing was not pertinent. In a sense, she ‘lost’ in that she could be sued. I think she ultimately won the case against her.</p>
<p>It would have been interesting if the state of New York or California was trying to establish her residence so they could tax her. </p>
<p>GMT, I think what some people do not fully understand is that the economy cannot support the influx of large numbers of undocumented peoples. The system will collapse and rather than solving the problems for those crossing the border, it will cause significant problems for our entire economy as we cannot support the social systems in place for large numbers of people. The solution is around making sure we have a better system for legal immigration and migrant worker options so we can have a manageable flow of people. Ont the personal side, children everywhere always suffer for the decisions and the lifestyle of their parents.</p>
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<p>As the person who sprang to the defense of Jessica Colotl and her ilk, I actually don’t have much disagreement with these statements. Where we should draw the line is debatable. What gets me riled are comments suggesting that people who were brought here as minors, particularly young children, have grown up in the US and have little or no recollection of their birth country are (a) persistent lawbreakers and (b) will suffer little or nothing from just taking themselves off to the foreign country where they “belong” and/or (c) have a straightforward path to rectify their status in the US if they could just bother to exert themselves to jump through some hoops.</p>
<p>OK, in a legal sense yes they are lawbreakers, but it was their parents who made the choice, not them. To characterize them as bad people who choose to flout our laws just seems heartless to me. (b) and (c) are just plain wrong. I think the hard line on this topic tends to be self serving. It’s inconvenient to us to have these people around, so if we can persuade ourselves that shipping them “home” is what they deserve and it won’t even do them any harm, then we don’t have to feel uncomfortable about it.</p>
<p>Yes. I am actually aware that we need to do something to make the immigration process into this country more managable. But, I’m really not talking about anything other than the fact that I believe these kids are in a tough spot. Just the reality of it. They have not done anything “wrong,” and they are not actually members of their “home” culture, and I think it would be easy to underestimate how hellish that could really be. I mean, honestly, what a nice accident of birth to be born a US citizen. </p>
<p>@Fredjan How many other universities that suppress campus assaults and other crime are pursuing four felonies against a dad who just wrote them a $37000 check? UGA disgusts me, as do the good ol’ boy, Athens lifer hillbillies who made it their mission to ruin this family’s life.</p>
<p>The message is clear: Campus crimes like sexual assault are swept under the rug, lie on a form and you’re paying five figures and facing multiple felonies. Stay classy, UGA.</p>
<p>@Torveaux - and others = “Bless your heart” isn’t always a smart ass remark - sometimes its truly a remark of empathy. Perhaps too many northerners are projecting the negative because they are so used to the rude remarks? Just floors me. </p>
<p>@threeofthree She was clearly being sarcastic. It’s OK, my original post in this thread could have been taken the wrong way. To be clear, the only hillbillies are the people in Athens sticking it to this man and his family. I would guarantee they fit the trashy, diminished capacity, xenophobic stereotype to a T.</p>
<p>threeofthree you are very gracious to project empathetic meaning to my post but I confess that my “bless your heart” was not meant to be kind.</p>
<p>I spent the first 25 years of my life in NY and CT and the second 25 in SC and GA so I am aware of both meanings of the phrase. My post was mostly intended to be an inside joke to the Southerners reading this thread. That being said, I wasn’t too worried about hurting the feelings of a narrow minded Midwestern teenager ranting about GA hillbillies.</p>
Well with GA’s own HOPE Scholarship system there is bound to be deviance.
CoolBird, This thread is over a year old. There is a newer thread already existing about this issue.