<p>Think about where Obama was last winter - way behind in the polls, “too inexperienced”, little support from African-American voters. He’s shown a remarkable capacity to get voters to take a new look at him and rethink their positions. I don’t believe that he feels he has to accept a VP he doesn’t want in order to appeal to constituencies that don’t support him at present. There are five months between June and November; the man has shown that he can change a lot of minds in five months.</p>
<p>I watched a talking heads show this weekend and they were discussing the possibility of Obama offering Clinton the VP slot. One of them had a great line; “Well, if she does take the VP slot, Obama had better hire a food taster.”</p>
<p>I thought that was funny.</p>
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<p>Nah… It would have to look like suicide or accident, or like Michele did it.
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<p>But seriously, just a cursory look at what’s happened to an astounding number of people who have crossed Bill, and you find plane crashes, suicides, and “accidents” a plenty. Having Hillary just one heart beat away from my Presidency would give me great pause if I were in Obama’s position…:rolleyes:</p>
<p>The biggest problem of having Clinton as VP would start if Obama cum Clinton happened to win. The chances for the both parties to work together on real solutions would again be reduced to nil by the mere presence of Hillary at the negotiation table.</p>
<p>Momofnew, I don’t think talking to people about possible cabinet positions is in any way underhanded – </p>
<p>Calmom I agree. But earlier you used the words ‘privately promise’ which is very different from talking to potential cabinet members. Additionally there is much baggage between Sens Obama and Clinton which, IMHO, would contaminate the appearance of business as usual in cabinet appointment discussions. It could be seen as a way of buying her off or appeasing her.</p>
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<p>Poetsheart, you’re kidding, right? Please say you’re kidding.</p>
<p>Eight Belles came in second too, but they didn’t drag her limp body to the awards ceremony and put a medal around her neck.</p>
<p>I don’t believe the Clintons had anybody killed, because if they did that sort of thing, there are several other people they would have targeted.</p>
<p>This news more or less confirms rumors that have been kicking around Democrat circles in NYS for a while now that Hillary is tired of being a junior Senator with little liklihood of moving into a leadership spot anytime soon. I guess NY has served its purpose.</p>
<p>“This news more or less confirms rumors that have been kicking around Democrat circles in NYS for a while now that Hillary is tired of being a junior Senator with little liklihood of moving into a leadership spot anytime soon. I guess NY has served its purpose.”</p>
<p>Guess that’s what happens when you elect carpetbaggers.</p>
<p>Go Hope?</p>
<p>“I don’t believe the Clintons had anybody killed, because if they did that sort of thing, there are several other people they would have targeted.”</p>
<p>If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have his own Secretary of State take responsibility for the deaths of half a million children on national tv. “We think it was worth it,” she said. </p>
<p>When the genocide plan failed, as well as two assassination plots, and an attempt to make a deal with Chemical Ali, he and Tenet cooked up the Big Lie of 1998 (the threat of the “imminent” use of WMD against the U.S.), to whom all the “experienced” Democrats subscribed, the illegal Iraq Liberation of 1998, the removal of all U.N. weapons inspectors, and the massive bombing of December 1998, with massive loss of life.</p>
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<p>Yes, I’m kidding. Sort of:D</p>
<p>For many reasons already stated, an Obama-Clinton ticket is highly unlikely. The Clintons are hardball players but not idiots. Hil is “the junior Senator” from NY in name only. She’s the major attraction and the Dems know it, which is why NY Sr. Senator Schumer has never caused problems for her. She can be like the late Senator Moynihan and simply ignore all leave all the routine constituent service stuff to the House delegation. The real consolation prize for her is majority leader in a Democrat senate, not a cabinet position and certainly not the supreme court, where she’d likely die from boredom. In summary, the appearance of sabotaging Obama’s candidacy is career suicide for Hillary and a potential A-bomb for the Democrats as far as young voters, new voters and African-American voters are concerned (do you think McCain’s visit to Selma, AL this month was a flight of fancy? Coincidence? A hunt for good fried catfish and Gospel music? Of course not).</p>
<p>Obama needs to be practical but creative in his choice for VP. He needs to look to the brighter members in the Senate and house who do not have a ‘same old same old politics’ reputation. If he’s going to look outside of Washington DC, Governor Janet Neopolitano of Arizona might provide the boost he’s looking for. Or Bill Richardson. Or Mark Warner of Virginia.</p>
<p>I don’t think Obama needs any sort of senator. He needs a whilte, male governor (or former governor).</p>
<p>He needs a white male because he is already asking the country to accept a huge change and elect a black man president. He doesn’t need to increase the change burden by asking them to accept a female VP as well.</p>
<p>He needs a governor to provide administrative strength and experience to the ticket. Obama himself has not administered anything beyond the Harvard Law Review, so he needs to bring someone on board with a proven track record of running things competently, getting things done, balancing budgets, etc.</p>
<p>I agree with previous poster. O needs a white male who is either a governor or big-city mayor who can help hiim win a desirable state OR he needs a white male with a lot of military/foreign policy experience. </p>
<p>People have mentioned Sam Nunn, but by Nov. he’ll be 70 and the whole heartbeat a way thing would work against someone that age, especially because they’ll be using age against McCain and McCain is only two years older.</p>
<p>Perhaps Senator Obama will shock the world and choose another black male as his running mate while also taking care of the Clinton problem.</p>
<p>The solution? Tap Bill Clinton as his running mate. Bill might have been America’s “first black President,” which means he can’t run for that office again. But does that mean he can’t run for Vice-President???</p>
<p>I don’t think the the 22nd amendment specifically addresses this scenario, but I doubt it would be allowed. The qualifications for being VP are the same as those for being president. Since Bill Clinton is no longer eligible to be elected president, he would not be eligible to be elected vice president either.</p>
<p>I won a bet on this once. The question was: “How many years may an individual serve as President?” </p>
<p>My answer: An infinite amount. (within the confines of the human life span)</p>
<p>Reason: The succession of anyone in the constitutional order of succession who may be a former two term President is not addressed by the 22nd Amendment. For instance: A two term President could run as VP again and then succeed the President and serve out the term till the next election. </p>
<p>Lather, Rinse, Repeat. </p>
<p>Our constitution allows more than eight years as President, but only as a result of very extra ordinary circumstances.</p>
<p>This is what OBAMA’S camp is saying. Well… it’s probably creating the effect they wanted it to create… it paints a nasty picture of Hillary. But I don’t think she will want the VP slot at all. VPs rarely have any real power in government, and she would do much better in a powerful cabinet seat or as governor or other positions people have mentioned here.</p>