<p>Yes, I know you weren’t. But your reason: “since we are not racially hispanic, and we do not speak spanish in our home” is irrelevant to the definition of Hispanic that is used for college admission; and she has every right to mark Hispanic for college admissions since you stated: “My children and I definitely feel a part hispanic”. </p>
<p>If she does not choose to mark Hispanic, that is fine, but she should know that she can if she wants to. It’s unique to heard of anyone asking about NHRP but declining to be recognized as Hispanic on applications, it seems anomalous. </p>
<p>Also, since there were misunderstandings in who you thought qualifies as Hispanic for college admissions, I needed to comment so that future members reading these posts do not think that race and/or language are qualifying factors.</p>
<p>Hi entomom, Please tell me how my son should classify himself on the different applications, he will need to fill out when he applies to college? His grandmother (my wife’s mom) was an adult when she immigrated to the USA from Spain and married a white American. I, (the father) am not Hispanic. I immigrated to the US as an adult from Pakistan. My son has dark skin and could pass for a middle easterner or Latin American, but not a white European. He attended elementary and middle schools in a poor largely Mexican/ Hispanic community in Texas.</p>
<p>On the PSAT he classfied himself as Hispanic. Was that wrong?</p>
<p>First, you were given good information by the MIT admissions rep and several other posters on your previous thread, and it will not be substantively different from what I say here.</p>
<p>Second, please read post #1 of this thread as it gives the definition of Hispanic used for college admissions. It would also be helpful to read the general parts of post #99 above, including the linked thread.</p>
<p>All of the details about skin color, etc. a not critical factors. The important question is whether your S identifies as Hispanic. While not necessary, his attendance in a largely Hispanic may have facilitated this identification that originated with his Hispanic background on his mother’s side. </p>
<p>As long as he identifies as Hispanic, there is nothing wrong with marking that on his PSAT or anything else college related. From what you have described, he would mark Hispanic, Spain for ethnicity; and white and Asain for race. If your wife’s father was another race, that could be marked as well.</p>
<p>MODERATOR’S NOTE: Before posting a question on this thread, please read post #1. It gives the definition of Hispanic used on college applications, and it describes the difference between the concepts of ethnicity and race. If that post does not answer all your questions, THEN post here.</p>
<p>I do not know if you realize, but the link to “Self-identifying ethnicity is OPTIONAL on the Common Application” in post one does not work. </p>
<p>Also, entomom, if he gets the PSAT scores and meets the GPA requirements etc, could he qualify to be a National Hispanic Scholar? Personally, I believe, he does. However, I just want a second opinion, in case I have overlooked something important. Thanks.</p>
<p>Thanks for letting me know about the broken link, I’ll look into it.</p>
<p>Yes, since your S is 1/4 Hispanic, that meets the requirement set by NHRP. If your Ss PSAT score qualifies, the next part of the process has your HS GC confirm that he is Hispanic and asks for his gpa. If your S has been self-identified as Hispanic at his school, that will be no problem. Some students, due to either lack of or poor information, have not been previously designated as Hispanic; if this is the case for your S, then you might want to discuss this with your school so that they understand that he is Hispanic and qualifies for NHRP.</p>
<p>About MIT, they don’t have merit scholarships, so it doesn’t surprise me too much that they don’t know about NHRP.</p>
<p>MODERATOR’S NOTE: Before posting a question on this thread, please read post #1. It gives the definition of Hispanic used on college applications, and it describes the difference between the concepts of ethnicity and race. If that post does not answer all your questions, THEN post here.</p>
<p>Personally, I think he considers himself a lot more than just a 1/4 Hispanic. Since, he never met his American grandfather, who passed away before S was born, people he knows as family on his mom’s side, all speak Spanish. As such, S probably does not think of his mom as only part Spanish. Also, since my parents passed away before he was born; and he never learnt my language, he is not culturally very Pakistani in any meaningful way. For these reasons, the culture he relates to at home & with his family is mostly Hispanic, except with me. Therefore, if he has not designated himself Hispanic, it is probably because he does not want me to feel lonely or abandoned. </p>
<p>I will email the registrar at the school and request her to make sure he is designated as Hispanic, after the holidays. I will also ask my S to follow up and make sure it is done. Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>Also, keep an eye on this forum this spring as people will start to be contacted by their HS GCs about NHRP. Often when a school is not familiar with the program, things often fall between the cracks, so it’s good to be proactive and know when the GCs should be contacted and sending information to NHRP.</p>
<p>Ok, so I’m fairly certain that I am Hispanic/Latino as both my parents were born in Ecuador (as were their parents and so on and so forth). I am a little confused, however, about what I should indicate as my self-identification(i.e. American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Black or African American, Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, and/or white) on the common app. My grandmother can speak a bit of Quechua, but I am not sure if this counts as “proof” that I have the blood of the original people, though my family line/appearance certainly implies it. Am I considered White (Europe) and American Indian (not enrolled)? Could somebody please clarify what my race might be? I remain very confused so it would be much appreciated. Thank you!</p>
<p>So, it is likely that you are at least partially descended from Original Peoples of SA, do your parents have any information on this?</p>
<p>If you mark the AI/AN category, one thing to consider is that when it comes to college admissions, the AI/AN category is targeted primarily towards those applicants enrolled/registered in NA tribes. So, you are not likely to be considered in the same light as candidates actively associated with NA tribes.</p>
<p>You do have the option of marking more than one race, so I would ask your parents for their best assessment of your racial composition. This is a hard and confusing question because in general, Original Peoples in SA do not have the same type of legal tribal affiliations that there are in NA. Just answer as honestly as possible, or don’t answer at all, it won’t impact your standing as Hispanic.</p>
<p>Thank you, entomom, for both your timely and informative posts- as well as your cia link (it was most fascinating). They are greatly appreciated. I have asked my parents about it and both believe that I fit the definition of a Mestizo. Though I understand that colleges are primarily targeting those with North American Indian ties, I believe I am going to indicate myself as both American Indian (not enrolled) and White (European), all the while citing myself as a Hispanic person. Again, thank you so, so much for your input.</p>
<p>Entomom, S started school and got his PSAT results today. He has a 219. In TX that is historically good enough for National Merit Semifinalist. I was wondering, can he earn both National Merit and National Hispanic Finalist/ scholar status at the same time? Thanks.</p>
<p>Hey everyone im new here and i really love that this thread exist and i appreciate what Entomom and everyone else is contributing. But i have a question for Entomom …and yes i read the 1st post :D</p>
<p>Im not sure if im latino. My mother is half puertorican (spanish/indian) and black, and my father is Italian and black. I grew up in a poor black neighborhood in Philadelphia and my whole life black culture and latino culture were present.
However i just dont know if i qualify as latino just because my grandfather is full blooded Puerto rican. Funny thing is, i looked up the definition of Latin, and one of them referred of spanish or italian decent. So am i Latino because my father is half and my mother half? Does Italian even count?? im so confused Do i claim Black, Latino, or black latino (does that even exist)??</p>
<p>By the way i have tan skin identifying with a race, id probably default to black or mixed.</p>
<p>Clotilde, Welcome to CC and the Hispanic Students forum!</p>
<p>It sounds like you identify as Hispanic since you said this:</p>
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<p>So there’s no reason why you shouldn’t mark Hispanic on college application. </p>
<p>Italian descent is only considered Hispanic if they immigrated to a Hispanic country. For instance, Argentina is made up of many people that came from Italy, they are now considered Hispanic with Italian origins. People who have just Italian backgrounds are not Hispanic.</p>
<p>From what you have described, it sounds like you’re 1/4 Hispanic (via your grandfather and mother) and racially you’re white and black. Remember from post #1, ethnicity and race are different concepts, and Hispanics can be of any race(s). The CA asks two questions. First, are you Hispanic (Y/N); and second, what race(s) are you. </p>
<p>Being 1/4 Hispanic will qualify you for NHRP, but some of the other Hispanic scholarships have a 1/2 Hispanic threshold.</p>
<p>Please see post #108, have you read post #1 of this thread which discusses who is considered Hispanic and the difference between ethnicity and race?</p>
Do i claim Black, Latino, or black latino (does that even exist)??</p>