Honor Student Could Be Deported

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<p>Looks like there are merit and need-based scholarships. Doesn’t look like the merit scholarships require a FAFSA [Kennesaw</a> State University Scholarships](<a href=“http://www.kennesaw.edu/scholarships/]Kennesaw”>http://www.kennesaw.edu/scholarships/)</p>

<p>While I feel badly for this young lady, I do think that if, for example, there is a “zero tolerance” policy (not law, policy) in public primary schools that gets a kid suspended or sometimes even expelled for bringing a butter knife to school or chain on their wallet, there are also consequences for breaking laws, especially as an adult. The law may be stupid, but its the law. If its a bad law, change it. But if its the law, it has to be enforced.</p>

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<p>I agree with you, Jym.</p>

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<p>Many schools offer the in-state tuition rate to any student who receives a scholarship. So perhaps her merit scholarship qualified her for in-state tuition regardless of where she was from.</p>

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<p>If so, no problem. If not, there may be an issue. I read somewhere that the school was not checking beyond actual residence in the state for in state rates at the time the young lady was accepted. The real problem is that she has been caught for something that is in felony category AND she is also illegally in this country and is as caught as caught could be. How much more caught can she be other than being caught by border patrols? So now what do we do about this?</p>

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<p>Well, let’s see now. The american who lied at Harvard is going to prison for theft and fraud, but if you’re an illegal who lies. . . then those rules don’t apply? I’m confused as to why an illegal immigrant would have MORE rights than an American, rather than fewer - or at least the same.</p>

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<p>Momzie, what exactly did she lie about? She apparently didn’t lie about her address, she did graduate from a GA high school, did not take the Hope scholarship, and the school had a policy of granting instate tuition at the time of her admission. So, guess I’m confused about what she lied about that would make her situation comparable to the boy who fabricated nearly his entire admissions application and CV.</p>

<p>The fact that the school did not review their records and/or ask their returning students for proof of citizenship, as most do not, is not really her fault, is it? I’d be willing to bet that many students, and parents, had no idea that the GA rules had changed midstream.</p>

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<p>Sk8rmom,
Apparently she did lie about her address, and also about the fact that she didn’t have a drivers license. She claimed she had a Mexican license that was not on her. That was not true. She apparently had no license at all. Giving a false address at the booking facility is apparently a felony. Not a good plan.</p>

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<p>Jym, I mean about her address for the school (ie a GA address on her admissions app). There seems to be some dispute over the addresses she supplied to the police related to her traffic stop - that’s kind of fishy to me since they’re claiming she never resided at the address listed on her registration, but doesn’t the DMV require proof of address in GA? Anyway, the traffic thing is separate from the tuition issue, in my mind at least! It doesn’t appear that she’s being charged with any fraud related to receiving instate tuition.</p>

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<p>Interesting-- there has been little in the local new about this in a week or so. Here’s all I could find: It will heat up at the gubernatorial debates, I suspect:</p>

<p>[New</a> face on an old debate | ajc.com](<a href=“http://www.ajc.com/news/new-face-on-an-528244.html]New”>http://www.ajc.com/news/new-face-on-an-528244.html)

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<p>Don’t know whose car she was driving, sk8rmom. Surely she didnt own it. And her family has apparently moved around frequently.</p>

<p>She lied about her address at the booking facility. That is a felony. Separate issue than the tuition- she engaged in a felony. That could get her deported.</p>

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<p>I could understand the lying about the addresses. Probably afraid that she would drag her family into the mess and possibly get them deported which may well occur now. </p>

<p>She did have absolutely no business driving a car. No justification for that at all. Has nothing to do with her II standing. I have a kid who got caught driving without a license and, yes, he had to take his lumps. He still does not have a license, and does not drive. Has to live near good public transportation.</p>

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<p>Update in the local news: [Tuition</a> Fight Over Illegal Immigrant At Kennesaw State - Video - WSB Atlanta](<a href=“http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23663151/index.html]Tuition”>http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23663151/index.html)</p>

<p>This D.A. King guy is creepy. Dustin Inman society? Also creepy. I have mixed feelings about the girl and her status due to the felony charge, but that DA King guy didnt help his cause one bit.</p>

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<p>jym, that may be the answer - they’re always referring to it as her registration/her car, so I was baffled as to how one gets a registration without a driver’s license too. Pretty sure her attorney said she gave both addresses - the one on “her” registration and her local, current address. </p>

<p>GA policy seems to be much like NY’s - students are not eligible for state aid, but most of the SUNY’s have a general policy of giving instate tuition to anyone residing instate for 3 years and graduating from a NY HS, regardless of citizenship. So it sounds as if it’s the Board of Regents, not the student, who is at fault for not updating their own policies to be in keeping with state law? </p>

<p>It sounds as if ICE has bigger fish to fry as they granted the request for a one-year delay in deportation proceedings. The local felony charges for driving without a license may be a different story though and I agree she’ll just have to take her lumps on that one! Not a wise decision at all…</p>

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<p>Yes, sk8rmom- To get car tags in GA a person has to show a valid GA drivers license or State ID and proof of insurance. There is some exception for cars in GA titled in another state, but I don’t know much about this (only bring it up in case soemone might think thats the case for this car). I am not sure if the driving without a license is a felony- but lying on processing forms is. She also lied about having a license to the officer. That cant help either.</p>

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<p>You can’t get insurance without a driver’s license either. How else would they check up on your driving record?</p>

<p>She must have lied to the insurance company too, or provided a fake driver’s license number. Insurance fraud, another big problem!</p>

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<p>^Yes. “Honor” student? Honor means more than grades. It used to come with it, a connotation of integrity. No one who cheats in some areas, while achieving in others, gets much admiration from me. Call me cold, I don’t care. The end does not always justify the means.</p>

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<p>And she had plans to continue on to law school. Not the kind of lawyer we need!</p>

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<p>A driver’s license should be exactly that-a plastic card that says that you have the requisite ability to drive on public roads. It shouldn’t have anything to do with residency or legal status. The fact that it’s taken as something more is ridiculous.</p>

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<p>Then we would need a national driver’s license. Since they’re administered by the states, you need to show that you reside in that state, and that your car (if any) is registered and insured in that same state. </p>

<p>If it’s national, it’s like a national ID card, an idea which makes a lot of people hot under the collar.</p>

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<p>And doubtful she could be accepted to take the Bar or be hired by a firm if she is not a resident of the US- so whats the point of law school unless she doesnt plan to practice in the US</p>