<p>Golani, go to the site razorsharp provided: <a href=“http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_120405.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_120405.pdf</a> and read the entire interview. It’s only 9 pages. I say this with respect: Most of the positions you argue I disagree with. But I feel that you are capable of more than just repeating the packaged sound bites of the right wing. I don’t expect you to like John Kerry, or any other politician not aligned with the positions you have taken. But you can develop a more sophisticated understanding of the world if you look at data for yourself. It’s not all black and white; you don’t have to believe that those you disagree with are all evil and those you agree with are all saints to be able to choose between different posiitons on public matters. But the manipulators find that it’s easier to push their positions if they paint the devil’s horns on anyone on the other side of the debate. Don’t fall for it.</p>
<p>So…this is what Kerry, Kluge, and Allmusic recommend:
Glad we got that cleared up.</p>
<p>Driver, you need to be more honest than that. The real quote is:</p>
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<p>And yes, there is no reason that American soldiers need to be doing that.</p>
<p>But you left out this part, AM–maybe he just flubbed the joke again.
dramatic pause while I let you two sort this out.</p>
<p>Yes, Driver, I do believe that the situation in Iraq cannot be improved without scaring children and violating local customs. If you figure out a way to avoid doing that, let me know. Wait - let GWB know. He could use a clue. Until that revelation arrives, I’d prefer to have the dirty work done by Iraqis than Americans. Excuse me for caring, but I’ve got a feeling that the majority of Iraqis who now approve of killing Americans are motivated in part by the fact that it’s our soldiers who are scaring the children and violating local customs.</p>
<p>I thought you were pro-military? Or is that just when it advances the political fortunes of the right, and not when it comes down to keeping them from being blown up by IEDs?</p>
<p>Puhleeze, Driver. </p>
<p>That referred to the authority, to which he refers again, after “your quote”.</p>
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<p>“It’s not all black and white; you don’t have to believe that those you disagree with are all evil and those you agree with are all saints to be able to choose between different posiitons on public matters. But the manipulators find that it’s easier to push their positions if they paint the devil’s horns on anyone on the other side of the debate. Don’t fall for it…”</p>
<p>WELL SAID!</p>
<p>“North Korea won’t really stand up against the US, either.”</p>
<p>The United States w/o China on board could NEVER use its full firepower against North Korea and North Korea knows this. The risk of a nuclear confrontation with China would simply be too great, as China would receive large amounts of spillover radiation should the United States go nuclear. The United States despite being labeled a “superpower” will have it hands tied behind its back up until the time a solid China/USA/Russian Nuclear alliance is formed against terrorist nations</p>
<p>China will soon (in their own interest) have no choice except to join in a type of anti-terrorist rogue state nuclear alliance- simply because the alternate choice of doing nothing will be far far riskier</p>
<p><a href=“Army Recruiters Accused of Misleading Students to Get Them to Enlist - ABC News”>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2626032&page=1</a></p>
<p>guess telling army recruits that the war is over is cetainly respecting the troops who are dying everyday…yep, support the troops by telling them that they are not in a war anymore…and lying to those just to get them to enlists, thought this problem was fixed already…</p>
<p>"“The Only Way We Can Win Is To Leave Before The Job Is Done”…who said that?</p>
<p>CITATION,</p>
<p>[I</a> made a better thread for the topic.](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=3139592]I”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=3139592)</p>
<p><a href=“http://austinbay.net/blog/?p=1513[/url]”>http://austinbay.net/blog/?p=1513</a> Great military commentary.</p>
<p>You young CCers can be just as alluring as Mary Kate Ham, I’m sure. Get out that vote! You know who you are–
<a href=“http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/1eb82b9e-397d-4a1d-a087-8582fec7b952[/url]”>http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/1eb82b9e-397d-4a1d-a087-8582fec7b952</a></p>
<p>Wait, I’m confused. You just compared me to a Townhall blogger.</p>
<p>Is that a compliment or an insult? 
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<p>:p</p>
<p>Living in a blue state I have to say that it’s been fairly common to continue to see Kerry/Edwards stickers on car bumpers/windows. That is, until early last week. Anyone else notice this? I haven’t seen a Kerry sticker in more than a week. What’s up with that?</p>
<p>Browninfall, it’s so that the focus stays on the person who was elected. </p>
<p>For what it’s worth, I took my sticker off immediately after the election. My husband has kept his on but I did tell him I thought he should take it off after the brouhaha over Kerry. Not because I changed my mind about the guy, but because that election is over. I see far more Cheney/Bush stickers (oops, Freudian slip) and I find it arrogant. I noticed that many of those stickers came off about a year ago.</p>
<p>“But once again, you choose to believe the media, rather than the military”</p>
<p>Pat Tillman, driver c’mon spin that. Body counts in nam and so on… of course the military has no agenda and is open and honest.</p>
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<p>…ah, the liberal fact check: “rumor has it”</p>
<p>yeah and conservatives never spread rumors…called a push poll, btw…and it doesn’t even need to be a rumor…it can be totally made up, just so long as the question is asked a certain way</p>
<p>lovely how most of the ugliness in this campaing comes from the family values crowd- voter suppression, threat of jail time, lies…yeah, conservatives and republicans are showing the world the true ugliness of AMerican politics…</p>
<p>and guess what, a AMERICAN passport is not good enough ID to vote in some places…now that is not a rumor, FS</p>
<p>“and guess what, a AMERICAN passport is not good enough ID to vote in some places…now that is not a rumor, FS”</p>
<p>I had a horrible argument years ago with Amtrak who didn’t think my passport was the right ID for me to pay for my ticket with a check. All they wanted was a driver’s license and I didn’t drive.</p>