How Australian Universities Edge Out Ivy League

Australian universities are not edging out anything. The Ivy League (including MIT,Stanford) and Oxbridge are the most prominent and desirable brands in higher education. It is gonna be super hard for a another team of universities to edge them out.

I agree with Penn95. Australian universities aren’t edging out anything.

There are virtually no Australian universities that are considered elite international institutions. Australia’s very best university wouldn’t make the top 20 in the U.S.

Please what makes ARWU “more reliable”?

How does QS and THE boost UK and Commonwealth institutions by being bias?

And how is ARWU more sane if it is only good for STEM assessment? The Arts, Humanities and FLAME subjects are irrelevant?

This sort of echoes this post: http://www.takerisksbehappy.com/save-money-and-see-the-world-the-hidden-benefits-of-foreign-universities/

Whether it is universities in Hong Kong or Australia, it seems there are many foreign options that are much cheaper than US ones.

LOL at the American elitists in this thread. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s (OECD) PISA study, an international comparisons study looking at education outcomes for pre-college students around the world in OECD member states, found that United States pre-college students ranked average or below average in most competencies measured, regardless of socio-economic background. The proposed follow-up study to look at tertiary outcomes did not receive enough support to go ahead… I wonder why.

@AlpineSwift:

The average (which is what PISA measures) is not the same as the elite level. And obviously, secondary education is not the same as tertiary education.

@PurpleTitan, I am suggesting is that the United States’ relatively poor performance on the PISA may have contributed to the relatively low turnout for the feasibility study for the OECD’s Assessment of Higher Education Learning Outcomes (AHELO), which was conducted on a voluntary basis at the tertiary level across the OECD. One might think elite institutions should have welcomed an objective comparative assessment because it could have boosted prestige, or at least justified it beyond what other ranking systems claim. However, we know that most of the universities in question did not participate.