You’re mixing “need blind” with “need blind and meet need”. Public schools don’t promise to meet need, especially for OOS applicants. They are need blind in admissions and admit plenty of students who ultimately can’t afford to attend.
As a side note, I would take anything written on the PrepScholar site with a large grain of salt. They often have poorly informed opinions or outdated information.
I think they’re all need blind and the list is missing.
Anyone can apply and get in based on their merit.
Affordability - that’s another thing - hence yields will be lower.
A lot sounds great on paper…til it comes time to write the check. That lower cost school, for many, sounds a lot better. Or they never could afford to go to the school they applied to - to begin with.
Sorry you are the one confusing things. You are confusing need awareness with open admissions. That is…stringent prohibitions at considering financial aid documents versus EFFECTIVELY being need blind by not looking at financial aid docs.
And chances are that the OP is not talking about community college here.
Are you saying that the hundreds or thousands of open admission community colleges are need aware in admission?
Seems to be a distinction without a difference.
As for whether public state schools are need blind, I’ll defer to @Mwfan1921 who works in admissions.
I agree with the others that the prepscholar list is incomplete. Most public colleges (let’s just focus on 4 year colleges) are need blind…they do not take the applicant’s need into the admissions decision, nor do they know the level of need an applicant has (nor do most care.)
All the UCs and CSUs are need blind…there’s 33 colleges right there.
Never said that once. You did.
You also don’t use the Common App to apply to California Community Colleges. So the OP is NOT talking about them. You are.
I don’t have a problem with using the term “need blind” for a college which has no need aid for that type of applicant anyway. But I also understand that for practical purposes that can be a different path to being need blind than actually having a need aid program, but a limited budget for need aid, but then promising not to consider an individual calculation of your need when considering your application for admission.
I guess my point is the semantics are not so important as understanding how different colleges are facing different situations, and potentially handling them in different ways.
Your linked PrepScholar web page does not restrict its “all” need-blind colleges to Common Application colleges or highly selective colleges.
I’ll assume the 2 debating users above are done, unless they want to take their discussion to PM. This isn’t a debate society
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Unless a school has an unlimited financial aid budget, and only a handful do, a school HAS to be need aware at some stage in the admissions process. (This of course is for schools that promise to meet the need of all admitted students.)
It has to make the FA budget! It cannot go over by a few million!
I would guess that after the AO has its class, they see where the budget hits. If they are over budget, some kids on the bubble needing aid get dropped, and some full pay kids on the bubble get added, eg.
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