Okay, I originally responding to a rhetorical question that, to me at least, presented the clear implication that all Presidents have been white males. </p>
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Sure, I pretty much agree. I think anybody would be very hard pressed to find me categorizing people according to race on here or anywhere in my life. Particularly not in any disparaging manner. I can guaranteee you I have never referred to anyone as a boring drudge of any kind.</p>
<p>“How many Asians are managers at Tech firms like Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, not even counting on the wall st firms?”</p>
<p>There are actually plenty middle and upper-middle Asian American managers, particularly among the tech firms. There are, however, relatively fewer (but growing) AAs in top leadership positions.</p>
<p>"The truth is white majority control the cookie jars, so the minorities have to wait in line for their turn to receive the handouts. "</p>
<p>It is silly to stand in line to get to the top. Nothing stops one from starting their own companies in US and plenty of them do it. There are plenty of Asians who have hit it big and leading fortune 500 is not the only measure of success.</p>
<p>Citibank was led by an Asian until recently.</p>
<p>Don’t forget Jerry Yang, founder and longtime CEO of Yahoo!, and An Wang, who founded and ran Wang Laboratories. Both were high fliers for a long time.</p>
<p>Right, I totally agree. I wonder if any of the people who spout these stereotypes know any Asians in real life. They have as much leadership ability as people of any other race.</p>
<p>From the standpoint of someone who lives in a very asian area, I can say with complete confidence that if somebody does not know any asians around here, it is because the asians self-segregate. I see this as a problem around here, and see that the asians who segregate themselves and do not join in, and we have an everybody invited policy in the younger grades, are way more racist than any other group I’ve ever met.</p>
<p>The asians around here who do join in are, frankly, the ones who explained this to me when I asked why so many were missing from so many of the parties and sleepovers. So, perhaps it is not just everyone else’s responsibility, here.</p>
<p>Actually, that is why I hate the demographic “asian.” The truth is these are very, very different cultures. Some have admitted us easily and others not so much.</p>
<p>If I already have billions in the bank, Ill work for 50 cents.</p>
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<p>Easier said than done, exception is not the rule. There are barriers to minorities everywhere. If you are an Asian and go to the bank for a loan to start a company, youll get a run around. Please dont use exceptions here and there as a rule. Talk in terms of %technical Asians in the workforce and what % of them are in management.</p>
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<p>Until he got kicked out by a white racist individual who lost that job to the said Asian, even though many in the bank thought he was doing a phenomenal job cleaning up the bank messed up by his white predecessors.</p>
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<p>Whatever the race blind admissions would allow. Look at Caltech.</p>
<p>I am undecided whether there is or isn’t racism against Asians in elite admissions. However, I think we should retire the straw man that anyone who criticizes the status quo is for test-based admissions. </p>
<p>It seems to be infectious as now you’ve got poetgirl saying it too.</p>
<p>People sometimes do bring up disparities in test scores to point to unfairness because (a) that IS one component of the way applications are evaluated, (2) there is some assumption that more subjective factors like LOR do generally correlate with it, and (3) they assume that one race doesn’t have more or less character or likeability than other races. They don’t bring it up because they think that test scores should determine admission. So let’s stop repeating that ad nauseum.</p>