<p>oldfort - it’s true, they have historical associations with both, but practically speaking, there are joint academic programs with MIT that there aren’t with Harvard.</p>
<p>Whatitsays - stop stalking me. Not only is some of your information incorrect (I was not in a religiously affiliated sorority), it’s against forum rules to come back under another screen name, and we know your old screen name was bearsanddogs.</p>
<p>I think I was told something in that line few weeks ago and my site stopped working for a week or so. Who are those people, you meant by “we”?
May I speak to the person(s?) to make this clear? I would like to know what is the matter.
I believed my informations are correct but who knows, I am sorry if I misunderstood.
You seems to know rules in these forum well.
May I ask then is it all right to attack and ridicule same person over and over again?
What do you gain from doing that, may I ask. I am trying to understand why you are not be able to get any hint from other members spoken to you before.</p>
<p>and so what if he IS bearsanddogs resurrected? if so–welcome back, bears! why are you trying to silence him? he’s making very valid points.</p>
<p>calimami - what points do you think whatisays is making? Maybe you could read her mind.</p>
<p>About now, I could use a Hun comment.</p>
<p>I am reading my play script - (Hun enters - stage left).</p>
<p>Snagelpuss: Exit- stage left</p>
<p>(Anyone remember the reference?)</p>
<p><a href=“Snagglepuss! - YouTube”>Snagglepuss! - YouTube;
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<p>poetgrl,</p>
<p>He could have been a naturalized immigrant who left South Korea after the maximal age* when he wouldn’t be subject to the South Korean draft for males and his parents didn’t get around to dropping his citizenship for him before he turns 18…even if he was naturalized as a US citizen well before adulthood. </p>
<p>He doesn’t even have the option of renouncing his South Korean citizenship to avoid the draft. In this situation, once over 18…if a South Korean male hasn’t served his mandatory military service, he can’t renounce his citizenship until that service is completed. Life in the South Korean armed forces is already exceedingly tough for young Korean males who were socialized there. It’s much worse if one left at a young enough age if one’s suddenly yanked out of an American childhood/adolescence with little/no command of the Korean language/social norms and is sent off to South Korean military boot camp.** </p>
<p>If a South Korean immigrant child ends up in this situation, his only choices are to comply with the draft or stay permanently out of South Korea as he’s liable to be arrested & drafted/imprisoned for draft evasion the moment he steps onto South Korean soil.*** </p>
<p>One former colleague who grew up in NYC in his teens and attended BxScience can’t go back/visit South Korea for this very reason. When I asked other South Koreans about this, they all confirmed this was actually a problem with a portion of South Korean male immigrants…even those who emigrated from South Korea as children.</p>
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<li>Basically, you’d practically have to have left within a few years of birth(babyhood) to avoid this issue altogether.</li>
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<p>** Draft dodgers are looked upon with such contempt and disgust by South Korean society, especially for sons of the political/wealthy elite and famous actors/pop stars that they feel it’s better to serve out one’s mandatory service and endure it as best as they can as it’s far better than facing the exceedingly negative PR fallout of trying to dodge the draft. </p>
<p>*** Not sure whether the possible repeal of the South Korean draft laws and their going to a volunteer military as has been discussed in the South Korean/East Asian press will impact South Korean emigrants who were liable for military service and opted to “draft dodge by not returning”.</p>
<p>thanks C. Did not know that.</p>
<p>calimami:
I have a problem with any poster resurrecting him/herself in a new identity, unless they have moderator permission. As we should all know by now, it’s against the TOS. It damages any community when certain individuals break the rules that supposedly apply to all. And we have a better community when every poster has to be accountable for what he or she writes. It’s not “silencing” a poster to raise the possibility that he/she may be version 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0. </p>
<p>Apologies for interrupting this amazingly resilient thread.</p>
<p>Bel, anywhere people go in large quantities in their 20s is going to be a place where they find their spouse. Correlation does not equal causation.</p>
<p>Wonder if Bel would explain why he’s so interested in empirical; the college experience is too vast and varied to simplify. At times , I do think he’s joshing.</p>
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<p>Wow! I just googled it and it turns out the South Korean draft law is worse than I thought. Looks like even males BORN in the US, but of South Korean descent are liable for the South Korean military draft if they are considered dual-nationals by being registered into the South Korean household registry at birth/childhood by grandparents/parents and the parents didn’t renounce South Korean citizenship before the male turns 18:</p>
<p>[The</a> accidental citizen soldier - seattlepi.com](<a href=“http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/The-accidental-citizen-soldier-1141729.php]The”>http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/The-accidental-citizen-soldier-1141729.php)</p>
<p>This makes South Korea even more far reaching than the ROC(Taiwan) which also has a mandatory draft for all males, but exempts Chinese born outside of ROC…especially foreign citizens unless we take ROC citizenship or stay in the ROC for more than I believe 3 consecutive months. In practice, those born outside are almost always exempted.</p>
<p>Now let me say what I really think.</p>
<p>We’re mostly anonymous. Most of us have a long history of having interacted, so we do know some details about each other- at a minimum, our broad positions and arguing styles. We try to follow the TOS, but simply do not always agree. And sometimes it gets pointed. </p>
<p>I don’t see ganging up. I do think some want these chats to turn into the equivalent of a random, conventionally polite convo on a bus. I would find that stifling.</p>
<p>If someone gets reprimanded, edited, or sidelined, it’s based on TOS. Not some power elite.</p>
<p>I would respectfully disagree. There are definitely some people that get away with things that are blatantly in violation of TOS, but the powers that be turn a blind eye - even when it’s pointed out to them.</p>
<p>MODERATOR’S NOTE:</p>
<p>Although discussing moderation is a specific violation of the Terms of Service, I am letting post #2595 stand for the following reason. Glutenmom has not once, in her last 200 posts (dating back to January 2011), reported a problem post. It seems odd that she would criticize moderators on CC when she hasn’t taken the time to alert us of the offensive posts.</p>
<p>In the future, please use the “Report Problem Post” button to alert us of problems. Just because you don’t agree with a post does not automatically mean it violates the TOS.</p>
<p>Gluten mom, take it up with the admins. This thread has a moderator who had made herself known.</p>
<p>On that note, I am closing this thread since it has deteriorated so far.</p>