She has used the same excuses mentioned here. Doctor appt. Stuff like that.
Nothing earth shattering or creative.
She has back to back interviews coming so she only needed one excuse for two appointments. That helps. Her company has to know what she is doing.
There should be decisions made next week. If she doesn’t get one these jobs, she is stuck. She is out of excuses.
One company is very aggressive. The company is shortening its interview process after talking to my daughter. That is appreciated. I just don’t know about this company though.
Our kids go through quite a bit. I don’t remember the interview process being this intense when I was young. These days, you have to be approved by everybody in the company. Lol
I remember when I applied for a job at the Pacific Stock Exchange. I had two interviews. The first one went so well, I thought I got the job. So when the second interviewer, her name was Kitty, asked me, “Do i have any questions?”, I answered, “Not yet.”.
I figured I was getting the job. I figured the second interview was set up so I could decide if I want the job. What did I know? I was young.
After I got the job, I was talking to Kitty and she said, “I don’t know about you, but the first interviewer strongly wanted you”.
What is weird is Kitty is probably close to 70 years old now. She was probably in her early 30’s. What happened?
That’s good that your daughter isn’t bring too creative about the excuses. I think it’s always best to be vague and not give too many details if you feel you must lie. I also have a terrible time lying. Can she just take personal days off, with no explanation?
I would do the first few (HR and next filter) over skype/phone. If they are interested to move forward, let them know she is working and can’t take too much time off. HR and hiring managers are usually very considerate of people’s work schedule. They are accommodating if they are interested.
I remember I was interviewing at another firm across the street from my old firm, because of my schedule I could only spend one hour there at a time. I met over 10 people, and it was done at breakfast, lunch and late afternoon.
D1 gets calls from recruiters. She doesn’t want to be seen at another firm because of small world, so she will meet them for drinks after work.
S2 is hoping to get another job. In his case, I’d assume he’d have to take a vacation or personal day, especially since he’d be wearing a suit for an interview, but doesn’t wear one for work. If he only took off a few hours, and showed up at work in a suit, it would be pretty obvious.
A friend used to bring a suit to work to change into when going for interviews. We used to call him Superman.
On the other hand, one of my colleagues used to come in with a suit every once in a while to make his manager think he was going for interviews. He would then go sit at a nearby park for 1-2 hours. His manager always tried to make sure he was happy because he was very good at his job.
She should say that she has to run some errands that have to be done during the day. Or that she is running an errand for you (that is, it is in your best interest for her to be happy with her job, so it is for you).
Or, I would recommend doing her best to take off an entire morning or afternoon.
Almost every place I have worked swirled with rumors of who is going on interviews. If you get a haircut, if you wear a suit when you normally don’t, if you take a long lunch. Some places are so paranoid they aren’t worried about people taking 4 hours, they are worried even if someone is taking 90 minutes for lunch and asks to make up the time.
I gave in my notice to one company, and they convinced me to stay with a raise (not substantial, but I was a little iffy on the new job). Previous to that, I gave my notice after having accepted the new job, and they said they were going to promote me from staff to management if I stayed. But I felt that they weren’t honest about it based on numbers, and I found out six months later my boss who promised a promotion left the firm.
It really depended on the company how intense the interviewing was, and sometimes it seemed like smaller companies were hung up on meeting with four or more people, and a few larger companies had only two interviews. I used to interview for a previous employer, and you could see how tired the candidate would get after a while.
On a few occasions, phone calls or (later) email only were enough to get a job because I had connections at the company. Didn’t share that with colleagues who had to go through the regular interviewing process.
DStark- I feel for your D. When my D was considering a change in SF she felt she had no time to apply or possibly go to interviews. Her job was 50plus hours a week and people just didn’t randomly take long lunches or schedule Dr appointments. It wasn’t our first choice but she decided to leave her job without already having another. She also at the same time decided to move home to our house and city and look for a job in our area.
I would confide in a supervisor with whom I had a good relationship before I would quit the job. She could ask her supervisor if she could make up the time missed.
My son interviewed on the opposite side of the country. He flew out Saturday, they met him for dinner Saturday and Sunday, he interviewed in the office on Monday. The plan was to red eye back on Monday night – but there was this little minor hurricane named Sandy that closed his lower New York office for a week. He visited the office a few more days; they put him up in the hotel and rented him a car so he could really check out the area. He couldn’t get back, and their travel coordinator eventually hopscotched him across the country. His office never knew he’d been out of town! Got the job. Started a few weeks later.
DD had the same challenge. After college she took a job that seemed a good fit, but it was not (especially after a reorganization changed the work). She knew she had to leave the stressful situation. But it was the kind of job that needed specific hours of coverage. It was too hard to lie, take interview calls in the parking garage, etc. She resigned.
She had a lot of savings (and option to move home if needed after her lease expired). Phew - she found some other good leads and had an offer a few weeks later. At the time, I was NOT happy about the risky move, but it worked out ok.
