How does prayer work?

<p>^^^^I would love to hear more of them. That probably made for a very interesting sermon.:)</p>

<p>^^^Oh we had some fun ones! “Cleanliness is next to Godliness”, “Money is the root of all evil”, “God never gives you more than you can handle,”“When God closes a door, he opens a window” etc. It’s amazing what people attribute to the Bible. There are even a few Shakespeare quotes that people have sworn to me are in the Bible. (BTW, it is the “love of money that is the root of all kinds of evil.” Just in case someone was going to correct me. 1 Timothy 6:10)</p>

<p>“Money is the root of all evil” is in fact in the Bible; it’s in 1 Timothy. The translation is generally, “The love of money is the root of all evil,” but I don’t think that changes the sense, do you?</p>

<p>Now, the dogma has changed. I think we’ll see a new flip-flop as medicine embraces the power of mind over the body</p>

<p>From about age eleven I have been interested in meditation/yoga, nutrition and trigger point therapy- although I don’t know where this interest in health came from- we lived in the suburbs and my mom bought Tang & space-food stix. :wink: ( but not Wonder bread)</p>

<p>Placebos can be very effective- ( which worries the pharma industry)- which I think illustrates how powerful the mind can be.</p>

<p>For example, I gave my dog chondrotin & glucosamine. Now some studies show that this does not have an affect on joint pain- however- I observed pain reduction with increased mobility, when she took it- ( going by how far she could walk- etc) was this because * I believed* that it would work?</p>

<p>[Enhancing</a> the Placebo - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/enhancing-the-placebo/]Enhancing”>Enhancing the Placebo - The New York Times)</p>

<p>^^^^I have seen nurses give saline flushes into a patient’s IV after being asked for morphine or demerol. They look very similar to the syringes which hold those medications. I have to say that I have seen the placebo effect at work in some of those cases.</p>

<p>^ I wish I knew that Nrdsb4, because when I have been in the hospital after surgery, I have refused pain medication because I don’t like the way it makes me feel- even when I can’t sleep because of pain- but I suppose if I * knew* I wasn’t really wasn’t getting anything, it wouldn’t help anyway.</p>

<p>^^^^Personally, I don’t do stuff like that. First, I feel honesty is the best policy, and it’s not my place to decide that ordered medication shouldn’t be given if appropriate. If someone wants pain medicine, it’s ordered, there is no reason to hesitate, (respiratory rate is good, O2 sats are good, they are not overly sedated, etc.) I give it. In a case like yours, I would try to come up with some non-narcotic interventions to help you get comfortable</p>

<p>There are nurses who have problems with narcotic pain medicine. It’s definitely a personal bias that is often not backed up with any good rationale. I will say that this kind of stuff doesn’t usually happen with routine situations, just when nurses feel patients are constantly asking for pain meds, possibly are drug seeking and not really in pain, etc. Still, I believe making assumptions like that can put one on a slippery slope.</p>

<p>Nothing aside from its association with a psychogenic enhancement of the immune system, which generally accompanies any form of optimistic emotional state. </p>

<p>[Religion</a> and coping with serious medical illness – Koenig et al. 35 (3): 352 – The Annals of Pharmacotherapy](<a href=“http://www.theannals.com/cgi/content/abstract/35/3/352]Religion”>http://www.theannals.com/cgi/content/abstract/35/3/352) </p>

<p>There is no dispute that individuals are comforted by their religious dwellings. But such shouldn’t be construed as evidence of factual validity of the beliefs themselves, only that buoyant or genuinely positive psychological states are advantageous to one’s well-being.</p>

<p>Nrdsb4… Thanks for letting us know that a saline flush could be given instead of pain meds. If I or a loved one should ever need pain meds in the hospital I will ask to see the bottle that is being put into the IV. I find that to be completely outrageous.</p>

<p>^^^^I agree. I’ve known some great nurses in my time, but there are a few who will openly say “I have a hard time with pain medicine.” They assume everyone is drug seeking. I will often respond, “well, maybe they are just addicted to pain relief.”</p>