Penn95, you really do know a lot about Penn! Thank you. Although I will be taking about 30k loans over the 4 years if I go to Penn, I’m okay with that amount of debt. I just want to ensure that I don’t lose wanting in the long run because of my decision. I completely understand and personally love the wellroundedness of Penn’s engineering program, but some of my cousins who are in silicon valley, keep telling me that Penn’s engineering program isn’t very research focused and many people don’t go to graduate school. Also, they said that they’ve never seen a Penn grad in tech in their careers, but they’ve seen amazing umich grads. Are these opinions valid? I’d love to go to Penn, especially because of the larger class sizes at UMich, but these questions are the only thing holding me back from committing. 