@ucbalumnus Good insight into UNC and UVA. UNC is so hard to get in for OOS applicants, as OOS is limited to 18%, which keeps the NC citizens happy, as they want access to a state supported school. Actually less than 20% of UNC’s budget comes from the state, though that’s a fortune compared to less than 6% at UVA. Aren’t nearly all OOS publics poor bargains? And even for in-state publics, I’d guess from my talking with some parents, is that they believe the publics are primarily funded by their taxes, not the low tuition. On another note, I think U of Alabama is very smart in their recruitment of OOS students. At my daughter’s school in NC, it was third in acceptances (behind UNC and NCSU) for the last class, though I do not know how many actually went, or how many were in the Honors program.