<p>EMM1,
Thank you (and hopefully you would agree with Rice also and to a lesser degree about Vanderbilt and Notre Dame). I also could have extended to schools like Georgetown, USC, and Wake, but I think that the arguments on the athletic side (in the case of Georgetown) or on the academic sidie (for USC and Wake) have more holes in them, but those schools are definitely a lot closer than they used to be.</p>
<p>As for the allowances question that you raise, you might be right, but given the modest football prowess at these schools (Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Vanderbilt and now even Notre Dame), they probably need to dig a little deeper if they want to be competitive in their respective conferences. 
These schools do exceptionally well on the national level in many sports other than football, but football is the most visible college sport and also involves the largest number of recruits. However, the number of football recruits is probably less than 25 per year and likely has a minimal impact on the overall institutional student profile. </p>
<p>hoedown,
I was surprised to read that the Peabody student numbers may not be included in the Johns Hopkins CDS and wonder as well how common this is. I was not aware that the schools had the leeway to exclude certain groups of students. Can you help me and others better understand how schools actually do this and if there are disclosures about this anywhere in the CDS or elsewhere?</p>