<p>this is pointless…studies keep on piling up that a 5 on an ap score does not even mean an a in the class. proffesors are beginnning to ask to tighten the belt in ap generosity. i dont see how an ap score can hurt u at all since it is not a requirement for admision and u dont even neet to report them.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...u-hsa021406.php[/url]”>http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...u-hsa021406.php</a></p>
<p>i have a 3 on one of my exams but 5s on the rest. can i report scores for all my subjects except for that 3?</p>
<p>I think AP scores are being seriously underrated…especially if you are considering HPYS or really top echelon schools. </p>
<p>Unlike the SAT, which is a test that i believe isnt used quite as much anymore, or GPA, which is really dependant on the school (I myself went to a relatively weak public school where getting a 4.0 was relatively easy…remember, these schools receive a school report and thus can weigh GPA in regards to the school), AP and SAT II scores are based purely on your talents as a student. In my eyes, these tests show how well one can pick up a subject as a student, and spend a year learning and understanding the material, then putting it all together for a test. These study skills and persistance are qualities I think schools are looking for.</p>
<p>In my personal experience, my AP scores were clearly my best asset on my application, and they are the thing that catapulted me to being accepted into the top schools. The way I see it, it just demonstrates your merit as a student, and these colleges are looking for students more so than the lazy genius.</p>
<p>And in regards to Senior AP exams…they don’t matter except for placement (but in regards to HYPS…placement should be the last concern). But you definitely want to take a hard schedule senior year, because they look at that too.</p>
<p>I’m thinking about applying to some of the Ivies</p>
<p>3-English (had an A…I’m at bad MC though)
3-US Hist (had a B, regulars class though, no AP)
3-Statistics (had a C)
1-Physics (had a low B)</p>
<p>Is this bad, good, or neutral to colleges?</p>
<p>for those of you guys who recieved your ap scores already, did you call? i’m still waiting… and if you did call, how did they go about and tell you? i’m just curious. and impatient.</p>
<p>Got them in mail on 7/3.</p>
<p>Funny thing about my scores I failed the tests that I thought I would pass, and I passed the tests that I thought I fail.</p>
<p>i dunno if you guys already stated this or not, but A 3 ON AN AP TEST IS NOT BAD. The only reason Ivy League schools like Harvard or Princeton require that you get 5’s on the AP tests is because they’re elitist bastards and consider that their courses are better than your high school AP classes. If they could have it their way, we wouldnt be getting any credit for taking AP courses. A 3 will not hurt your chances at an Ivy League-caliber school, but it probably wont help much either. the 3 simply means that you paid attention in class and understood the subject. anything above a 3 would mean that you understood the subject really well. or you just got really lucky, like me.</p>
<p>^^^screw all those elitist bastards who think they are better.</p>
<p>glucose - the 3s will be neutral - the ones will definitely kill you. As someone who got rejected from teh Ivies along with his 20 best friends, let me warn you that having Cs or even Bs will be very detrimental to you - you’ll need to be very strong with ECs, essays, sports, and the like to get in. I don’t mean to be the voice of gloom - your scores and grades are good to most colleges - but the ivies are so freakin’ competitive that the grades will hurt you much more than the AP scores.</p>
<p>I remember there was an article in the Harvard Crimson when I was there for the HMMT that said that “studies showed” that performance on ap tests is overrated as a good indicator of success in college. As posted above somewhere, a 5 is not equal to an A in college. Actually, the article said, performance on MATH AP’s is a better indicator of success, that doing well in math in high school is much more important because it’s the language of more and more academic disciplines, especially the sciences, and fluency in mathematics is essential.
<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=511595[/url]”>http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=511595</a></p>
<p>What do you guys think about scores and the top schools when it comes to self studying (in an already filled schedule)?</p>
<p>If you decide to list your scores on your application, do you have to have collegeboard send them to the colleges separately? One of my friends said that she didn’t.</p>
<p>Would you guys listen to an adult voice? AP classes (and exams) were originally devised to give bright students college credit for their advanced high school studies. In the beginning, 5s were rare, 4s more common, though hardly the majority. Back then, only seniors took AP classes and tests, so the results were a factor only in freshman placement, not in admissions.</p>
<p>As Newsweek started rating high schools based on the AP classes they offered, AP classes popped up everywhere. The AP exams still were not supposed to be an admissions tool, but were instead beginning to become a measure of how good the school was, particularly if it was a public high school. Schools started reporting AP grades to demonstrate the quality of education. Schools reporting that “100% of AP students earn a 3 or better” are regarded as being high quality.</p>
<p>In recent years, with sophomores, juniors, AND seniors taking AP classes, especially in the larger schools where many AP classes are offered, the AP grades offer a glimpse into student performance during admissions. At the elite schools, admissions officers frown (just a little) at students who took AP classes and never followed up with an AP exam. (That’s why many private schools REQUIRE that AP exams for any student enrolled in an AP class.) Colleges below the very top usually don’t care as much. </p>
<p>HYPS and the like usually don’t give college credit for AP exams, and instead might use certain ones for placement, although they are moving away from this entirely. Top liberal arts schools also regard the AP exams as a placement tool. Below that level, though, many students can get sophomore placement on the basis of AP exams, which saves tons of money. In the end, though, AP exams provide just another piece of the whole admissions picture. Students from lower quality schools (and trust me, admissions knows which schools those are) are not expected to do as well as those who come from highly ranked high schools. Of course, if you come from a weak school AND score high on APs, that gives your application strength.</p>
<p>Students should probably cancel any grade below 3 since you cannot choose which AP results to send to your school. It’s better to look as though you did not take the test than to fail it.</p>
<p>i dissagree…taking the ap exam shows u cared enough to try.</p>
<p>Whoever said SAT IIs matter more is a ■■■■■■. SAT II’s are leaps and boudns easier than the AP test…I know someone who got an 800 on the APUSH SAT II and a 3 on the AP test.</p>
<p>yeah i dont get that too. sat IIs dont have essays, which count as half the score on all APs, the tests are like half as long. maybe they think that there are classes for aps, while you have to prepare yourself for sat IIs on your own?</p>
<p>I know this probably sounds naive, and stupid even, but I have a question:</p>
<p>Do you think top colleges would consider applicants with 3s and great stats more desirable than those with similar stats, but with numerous 4s and 5s? The reason I say this is that more than likely the 3s will have to take classes at the top college, and thus more income for the college?</p>
<p>Ok, I’m freaking out here. I’m a straight-A student, 4.0 GPA, 2nd in the class, taken the hardest courses possible at my school. I have numerous good EC’s, etc. etc…</p>
<p>But I got a 2 on the AP chem test.
!!!
What’s going to happen to me?! </p>
<p>I also took the APUSH one, and got a 4.</p>
<p>I’m really scared. My top two schools, and the only ones my parents will let me apply to other than the university in my city (UIUC), are Northwestern and WashU.</p>
<p>Ummm. Help me.</p>
<p>wow chill out…you dont even have to report them…take a chill pill as a suppository.</p>
<p>I’d cancel the 2. Again- what is a decent score for self studiers?</p>