<p>Hi, amciw, if Stanford is your favorite college, OF COURSE you should apply SCEA.</p>
<p>so 2300 is the 75 percentile? hmm yea </p>
<p>cellardweller, thanks for point 1! I’ve been looking for that percentage all over the place. But isn’t MIT’s lower at 4%? When you say this though, is it in reference to (I might be stereotyping here, sorry) the “Super Students” in Asia and India with all perfect scores? Or does it include all international students from South America, Africa, Europe? </p>
<p>I’m in Europe, and I’ve often wondered whether it’s “better” (as in, it’s less competitive) to be situated here than in, say, China. Does Stanford tend to admit a lot of Asian and Indian students than from other places?</p>
<p>take a look at Stanfords common data set
[Stanford</a> University: Common Data Set 2007-2008](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/home/statistics/#admission]Stanford”>http://www.stanford.edu/home/statistics/#admission)
information regarding the first time, freshman year data. It gives a complete picture. And according to this information, which Stanford is required to supply, the 75% numbers are 760 CR, 790 M, 760 W.</p>
<p>Yes, but that doesn’t mean 2310 is the 75th percentile. I’d say the 75th percentile is a little lower than that, but nonetheless, as an Int’l student I’d aim for at least a 2200.</p>
<p>^^HUH??? look at the common data set info. It lists what the 75% is in EACH category for last years accepted students. those numbers add up to 2310.</p>
<p>so does this mean that the top 25% of applicants receive this score? or is 75% of all applicants</p>
<p>[Undergraduate</a> Admission | Class Profile - Fall 2006](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/applying/extras/1_2a6_profile.html]Undergraduate”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/applying/extras/1_2a6_profile.html)
gives the breakdown of scores for matriculting [ accepted] students as well as applicants.</p>
<p>Hi, menloparkmom, it’s an error to add those numbers to infer what the 75th percentile level is for composite scores, because often among admitted students at a given university, the low math scorers are high critical reading scorers, or the other way around. Cervantes is correct on this point. Unless the college specifically reports composite score percentiles (and colleges hardly ever do), it’s not possible to exactly estimate composite score percentiles from individual section percentiles. </p>
<p>To answer kollegeyippee’s question, the 75th percentile level of scoring is the level that 75 percent of the enrolled class scored at or below. If you can reach that level, you have a better chance of admission, but by definition some students who score below that level still get in.</p>
<p>I am aware of that, that is why I posted the link to the individual scores. General assumptions can be then drawn or not.</p>
<p>Though I will say, for SCEA admits, since I was one, I received an email or mailing for the 25-75%ile for SCEA admits this year. I’m pretty sure it was 2130-2310, but don’t quote me on it. But remember that SCEA admits generally have better scores than regular kids (because they can defer the kids that are good, but not good enough to take early) so yeah…the 75th percentile in my opinion will be slightly lower than 2300.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response, token adult. Stanford is definitely my first choice.</p>
<p>That being said, if I wasn’t accepted SCEA, would I be rejected outright or deferred?</p>
<p>Stanford does have a long-standing policy, which has continued under its new admission dean, of denying admission outright to a fairly large percentage of the early applicants, rather than doing “polite deferrals” to the regular round. But they shouldn’t reject you if you really do have a reasonable chance of getting in. Stanford does defer some applicants to the regular round, some of whom are eventually admitted.</p>
<p>“But they shouldn’t reject you if you really do have a reasonable chance of getting in. "
Token, do you have insight into what a” reasonable chance is?" in the thinking of Stanford admissions committee? This statement does not reflect the reality that there are 10X’s as many applicants as there are openings! Even if every single NMF applied to Stanford, [ and to reach that status SAT scores are taken into account] most would still be rejected, regardless of how well qualified they are! Stanford, like all highly competative colleges, takes many factors into account when making admissions decisions, including EC’s, sports, recommendations $ contributions to the school by parents, alumni status/ location, sex, ethniticity.
Stanford does only defer 10% of SCEA applicants, and does end up rejecting most of them. The deferral is in most cases a “polite rejection”.</p>
<p>menloparkmom, no offense but you seriously seem to have a view that you should be like godly to even apply to Stanford SCEA.</p>
<p>It isn’t the case; as long as you’re not a flat-out-reject that would waste time, and you really want to go to Stanford, which the OP seems to be, he should apply.</p>
<p>Surely no one has any evidenced basis for believing that it is WORSE for your chances of ultimately being admitted to apply SCEA rather than waiting for the regular round?</p>
<p>invoyable, the question is - should a student apply SCEA to Stanford [ where the chances of early acceptance are less than 15%] and by doing so forgo the chance to apply early to another “top” college where they have a far greater chance of early acceptance? Is it worth it? Based on the statistics and history that Stanford does say “yes” to the “strongest” students first, why would it be wise for a student whoses grades/rank/ stats are lower than 65% of accepted students, to apply SCEA and risk the greater chance [75% ] of rejection AND not having any acceptance letter before XMAS from any other college? SCEA makes sense if you are among the strongest applicants of non hooked applicants [ recruited athletes are counted in the early acceptances, and usually faculty kids and DA’s apply early as well]. That’s the point I’m trying to make. Students potentially give up big admissions advantages elsewhere when they apply SCEA.</p>
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I think I understand where you’re coming from and I actually agree with your opinion in this way, that’s why I said if one was a flat-out-reject he shouldn’t apply.</p>
<p>Hm, I just thought that if you really want to go to Stanford, and you think you have a decent shot (not necessarily all the top), you should apply - I think the admissions involve more than raw scores of GPA and SAT’s. I can’t evidence this clearly but I have seen seniors that get in SCEA with stats that are less than the norm (although I agree that it’s more difficult, I guess, and it really depends on things like location and stuff…)</p>
<p>And you keep saying “An acceptance letter before Christmas”. I really am not sure about the value of what you’re describing, but is it really that important to not apply to your first-choice school so you can be comforted with a safety or something? 
I actually haven’t gone through this process so admittedly I don’t know but it seems that a couple months earlier, well…</p>
<p>You have to use your head [ how do I measure up compared to the stats of students that Stanford accepted? GPA and SATS are VERY important to Stanford] instead of your heart[ Stanford is my first choice school] when making a decision like this.
And as for having an acceptance letter from a college you would be HAPPY to attend to before Xmas- it DOES feel great, and if you have one in hand, you can decide not to apply to some other colleges on your list, or just call it a day and have a stress free Spring while classmates are sweating out waiting to hear until April 1.</p>
<p>and just remember, that for the most part Stanford DOESN’T CARE if it is a students’ “first choice”[ unless you have a big hook [DA, recruited athlete, etc.] They have more more than enough applicants to fill 10 freshman classes.</p>
<p>You keep talking about how all these hooked applicants tend to apply early. I’m not sure when you get this information, but I’ll go with it for now. </p>
<p>Anyway, even if this is true, Stanford SCEA will also attract numerous under qualified applicants who are under the impression that applying early will boost their chances. A lot of people who are “subpar” apply early because they are freaked out about colleges and feel that if they apply early, their “lacking” qualities will be overlooked. Now, of course this thought process is quite egregious, however, it continues to be the dominate thought process in A LOT of kids. </p>
<p>So, to sum it up, Stanford SCEA will most likely many applicants who are even more under qualified than most RD applicants simply because they are uniformed and desperate. So in this situation, an applicant who actually has a decent chance might be able to stand out a tad bit more.</p>