It’s also immoral to misrepresent what other people say for the purposes of trying to make your own point. I think the OP has been quite specific in stating what he thinks and why and he has not said it would be done for the purposes of harassment.
It’s very possible the guidance counselor does not know as much about the student’s specifics, so implying that the guidance counselor is in on “known fraud” is really unfair, too.
Most students are not aware of their own families finances, yet the OP thinks he knows about the student in question family finances? Hogwash. Secondly, the OP doesn’t seem to have a good grasp on the program evidenced by several of his or her own statements. He/she mentions that the suspect student isn’t even a URM, which is NOT a requirement to participate in QB. The OP also doesn’t like that the other student has taken a spot from another California needy student. There are no spots, the individual schools admit from QB applicants the same way they do as non QB applicants, and certainly not from CA specifically. I stand by my statement for the OP to butt out, he/she is wanting to do something about what he/she perceives, not on what they know. I’m pretty sure the OP hasn’t seen the tax forms for the family of the student he/she wants to out.
And if that’s not what OP’s post is all about, I’ll eat my hat. My analysis is that OP didn’t get into Princeton, Yale and Dartmouth and is really, really ticked off.
^Just to clarify, I did get into Dartmouth, UChicago and Cambridge, all of which are better than or equally as good as those schools that you mentioned. It’s definitely not for the purposes of jealousy - if you had taken the time to even look at my profile before commenting, you would have known better. This student had been under suspicion before all of this student’s RD applications were even submitted and reviewed by the colleges (back in November!). If this student was really that high-achieving and indeed in-line with Questbridge requirements, I’m sure that he/she would have matched immediately in the early round (but he/she did not match to anything). Rumors don’t spread for nothing. And it never hurts to double check.
I am perfectly comfortable with providing my full legal name and my reasoning for this report to QuestBridge. I have acquired sufficient information to proceed with the report, but cannot divulge the majority of the information on a public forum for common sense reasons. The original intention of this thread was to ask for the procedure on how to report such individuals, not to have people debate about whether this report should be submitted. That’s out of the question. This report is going places.
Talking to the GC will get nowhere. GCs are not allowed to discuss one student with another student…in any way shape or form.
“Under suspicion”? By whom, the official high school student watch committee for Questbridge fraud, of which you are the grand potentate? OP, your profile shows many talents, so as your senior year comes to a close, how about putting all that energy and commitment into something more worthy than trying to undermine someone else’s life? As has been stated by many in this thread, unless you had access to this student’s application materials and underlying financial data, you can’t possibly have adequate information to support your accusations. Sorry, but this whole effort smacks of personal vendetta, and I’m sure it will be perceived that way by whoever receives your “report”. Let it go, for goodness’ sake.
@Zwischenzug, What kind of proof do you have that this student did anything wrong? “Rumors” don’t qualify as “sufficient information” in the adult world. Are you saying someone misrepresented this student’s grades or test scores? Or that family income was higher than reported? Even if both of those were true, how would you know unless you saw his application? What proof do you have to lead QB to believe that you know what you’re talking about? How you proceed depends on the proof you have, not the rumors you’ve heard.
“If this student was really that high-achieving and indeed in-line with Questbridge requirements, I’m sure that he/she would have matched immediately in the early round (but he/she did not match to anything).”
That you think this, indicates that you don’t understand how QB works. Many of their candidates don’t get immediate matches! Many go to the RD pool. Even then some never get a direct admission. I personally know a QB candidate who only managed to make it onto one waitlist, and ended up choosing a different non-QB institution rather than waiting all summer to find out if the QB place would come through.
“I’m sure he/she would have matched immediately…”
Really? My son’s QB list: Notre Dame, MIT, Yale, Amherst, Stanford, Northwestern, Princeton.
Not matched for any of them.
Admitted RD: Northwestern, Amherst
Waitlisted: Stanford, Notre Dame
Rejected: MIT, Yale, Princeton
Stats: #2 in class, 2280 SAT, 35 ACT.
Income: partial Pell eligible according to 2015 FAFSA
Please let us know how your report goes. I am sure QB will devote all of the resources they have available.
Stop hating and let OP send his/her report. If it’s baseless, no need to stress it.
OP asked for how to send the report, so don’t comment on tangential matters.
Come on Justonedad, it certainly was not clear from the initial post that the OP had anything approaching real data with which to question the QB kid and his family. What basis do you see for this kid to file a report about fraud based on what he and his HS classmates think and rumors?
While Z states he has sufficient information, he won’t even tell us what the nature of the information. IF this kid has some real evidence, why did he wait until now to report it, since it was known since the fall Even in his more recent post, he states that rumors don’t spread for no reason (but of course they do) and that it doesn’t hurt to double-check.
If he has access to this family’s income tax information and health data, and knows that what they provided to QB and to the colleges is a lie, then he would have an obligation to proceed. If not, to me this is nothing more than a fishing expedition which could put the QB kid and his family through a tough time. One of my friends got audited for the FAFSA and even though all her information was verified as true (since it was factual), it was a tough experience for her in the midst of lot of health and financial challenges.
As others have said, if you post on CC, you are going to get opinions. If he just wanted to know how to submit a fraud report, he could have called QB to ask.
For the record, a one-bedroom apartment in the Cupertino area rents for $2,500+ a month on average; an apartment for 4 in the Cupertino area would rent in the 4,000-5,000+ range, which indicates the “culprit’s” family is probably piled into a small two-bedroom apartment.
I understand why OP won’t provide us with the information s/he has, but what was mentioned is absolutely not compelling, and unless the “culprit” falsified tax forms (which is very difficult to do), QB is very thorough in what documents it asks for (it’s not like COmmonApp where you just “declare”) so it’s hard to imagine someone CAN have committed a fraud, unless they also defraud the IRS and their employer is in on the scheme.
The OP has absolutely no idea what he or she is talking about and has no evidence. There are poor people in every rich town in the nation, and appearances can be incredibly deceiving. This quite literally is none of his business.
Ugh.
My family is multiracial, but we “look white” for the most part, so it’s easy to assume we are. My married name is common among whites and blacks. My kids are three races, and I personally am offended that Barack Obama is the “first black president” when in our minds, he’s the “first multiracial president” (discounting some tales of presidents with native ancestry).
My best friend’s wife is disabled, and at her job, a co-worker asked her one day why she was getting special treatment. She told him of her disability and of course he was like “what? you aren’t disabled!” because obviously a co-worker who sees her every once in a while knows more than doctors and human resources, and her family.
So OP:
There is a 4.3% poverty rate in Cupertino. I have seen kids who have a single mother who scrubs toilets, with new $200 soccer cleats. And a “$3,000 per month” apartment could be rent subsidized or part of a low-income housing plan (because gosh forbid, we couldn’t have actual low-income housing in certain towns). 8% of Cupertino residents are URM (black, Hispanic, etc.).
There are criminals in this world. There are people who maliciously represent themselves.
I just don’t think the OP is in any position to do anything about this - at best it is hearsay (have you seen his/her parent’s apartment lease? are you aware of his/her parents and grandparents? have you seen his/her parents’ paychecks?) and at worst, it is vicious lies spread to discredit someone who has achieved more than most in the OP’s circle of friends (apparently).
OP said he’s been collecting information about another student, apparently for several months. Whether or not he gets himself into trouble may depend on what information he’s collected and where he got it from. If anything came from the district files, for instance, that’s a FERPA violation and his school could lose federal funding if anyone got wind of it. If OP pursues this he needs to be right, because if he’s wrong the family of the QB student has every right to sue him for defamation of character, slander, libel, and invasion of privacy.