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<p>Don’t worry, I’m used to dealing with your kind. It’s more amusing than depressing.</p>
<p>Of course it matters where you go to school. It also changes how people treat you.</p>
<p>I was a community college student.
Now I’m a Duke student.</p>
<p>^ Big respect change.</p>
<p>Really?..I can’t see me giving someone more respect because they go to a better school.</p>
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<p>setting outcome, 1st jobs, and making lots of money as an end goal aside for a moment. How about the 4 years you are there? The quality of the people you’re with and the life experiences you have. Isn’t that rather important? </p>
<p>So do expensive private schools offer more day to day value than less expensive public schools. Kind of a Chevy vs BMW argument isn’t it?</p>
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“That might be true, but what about the vast majority of us who are neither geniuses nor the most hardworking people on Earth? Are you saying that it doesn’t matter where we go to school?”</p>
<p>If you are not willing to work hard then it truly doesn’t matter where you go to college. If can’t advantage of this life changing opportunity, then living with your parents when you’re 24 years old is what you’ll have to look forward to.</p>
<p>I’m sorry but I fail to see any relevant contradiction. As I’ve already mentioned- the college that you attend matters, but your future is largely determined by what you make of it.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t call them close minded and ignorant; I’d call them deluded.</p>
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<p>Some motivations are nobler than others. Obviously, motivations driven by greed and motivations driven by a desire to help others are not on the same moral level.</p>
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<p>The problem is when people think that money is everything in life, because that’s dumb. At the same time, if they want to live their lives thinking that money is all that matters, that’s their problem, not mine.</p>
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<p>Why should that be? I think all motivations are the same.</p>
<p>Money isn’t everything though. I mean yeah obviously you need some otherwise you end up living in a cardboard box. But if you don’t want to live in a mansion on a giant lot with three horses and a private jet, then you don’t need to make six figures to live comfortably.</p>
<p>It’s funny to see that most of people who make this claim (that it “doesn’t matter”) go to… well, let’s just say they don’t go to the best schools.</p>
<p>And every one of those people, if given the money and opportunity, would go to the better school in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>Hypocrites. It’s the new pandemic.</p>
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<p>“We do not see the world as it is; we see the world as we are.”</p>
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<p>Not actually, BMWdude. If I had to pick between the school I’m at right now and an Ivy, maybe. But if I was at a school I really loved, and had the choice to go to an Ivy, I probably would stay at the school I loved. No sense in potentially trading happiness for a degree with a more prestigious name on it. Especially since I currently don’t plan on a career that requires the sort of connections you get at an Ivy.</p>
<p>if you don’t get into an ivy or a really good private school with a good alumni base (Duke, NW, Vandy, Notre Dame, Chicago, JHU, maaaaaybe USC or NYU) then go to a state school instead of being five figures in debt, you won’t pay that back for a long time and you won’t be rich or successful with all that debt</p>
<p>You’re missing a lot of schools on that list. Georgetown’s Foreign Service program is great.</p>
<p>Undergrad doesn’t really matter all that much for me. But if I don’t go to a top14 law school, I’m ****ed. Literally and metaphorically.</p>
<p>My undergrad matters only to the extent of its ability to help me get into those top14 law schools.</p>
<p>It is all about choices and money - an explosive combination during this recession.</p>
<p>People who value academic excellence accept that it is expensive. Some have planned for and saved for it; others foolishly go into debt for it.</p>
<p>People who want a degree for the least amount of money see things differently. </p>
<p>In between these two extremes are most of us.</p>
<p>People make their choices, then seek to justify their choices to others. One family struggles for years to save enough to send all the kids to topnotch schools; another family saves nothing and assumes the kids will work it out.</p>
<p>There’s no point in arguing. We buy different houses, cars, vacations; why not have different attitudes about education? Maybe because we are fearful for our kids?</p>
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<p>What an ignorant fool. I had a full ride to U of Michigan, chose the much less-ranked Michigan State. We’re not all prestige whores. I grew up poor and learned not to chase the best, biggest, shinies thing. I learned to chase things that would make me happy, even if it’s not the “best”.</p>
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<p>Now, in a value-less, mathematical world, sure there is no “right” or “wrong,” “better” or “worse.”</p>
<p>But clearly in our subjective human reality, some motivations are nobler than others.</p>
<p>And being motivated by money is the most fickle and ignorant motivation of them all. Because money is one of the few goals that is almost always a MEANS - never an ends. Money is never an ends in itself.</p>
<p>Wanting to live debt-free or wanting to live a life free of monetary concerns (financial stability) may be nobler goals - and this can easily be achieved on a 70k annual income.</p>
<p>But that’s not the TRUE motives or goals of these people who want zounds and zounds of money. No, it most certainly isn’t “financial stability.”</p>
<p>I’d say its having lots of pointless, fun toys; extraneous junk, luxury hot tubs, etc — but that’s really not it at the core either.</p>
<p>They crave something they’ve probably been deprived of most of their life: status, respect, some sort of authority.</p>
<p>Having something others want - being able to control others.</p>
<p>Maybe they are insecure, their self esteem has some problems, so they want a 300k a year salary so they can turn to that/ point to that for comfort. But it’s so obvious that something as superficial as a number will never fill that void in their soul, so even once they get that 300k raise they’ll want more; it’s won’t be enough; that hole in their soul with still be gnawing at them, burning on the inside.</p>
<p>They’ll keep chasing the dollar, which will never provide the real satisfaction they desire.</p>
<p>Or maybe they want money as an asset in their “dating” box. Unfortunately I don’t think an air-headed gold digger provides much any long term satisfaction or fulfillment either.</p>
<p>This is why when your life’s work is “horde as many bananas as possible for myself” - you seem very naive.</p>