<p>I was trying to remember, found it.</p>
<p>Frontline is a great show.</p>
<p>Be sure to read the entire article as well…it’s a nice inside look.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/sats/etc/inside.html[/url]”>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/sats/etc/inside.html</a></p>
<p>I know that UCLA apps get read three times each, and all three reviewers must recommend you for admission for you to be admitted. My high school counselor was on the adcom for UCLA, and she told me all about it back when I was applying. She gets big packages of applications mailed to her, and she reviews them, marks her decisions and sends them back. She said she spends only a few minutes on each one, but I would assume that after reading several hundred of the things or doing that for several years, you would get a sense of what you’re looking for and could look at an app pretty quickly.</p>
<p>That makes sense. And if you read the Frontline article I linked to, the dean of admissions at UCB mentions that for obvious good or bad apps, the process moves quickly. because it only takes a reviewer a few minutes to see what they need to see. But some apps, require a much more lengthy review…up to 45 minutes in some cases the article mentions.</p>
<p>All three reviewers? Do they have some kind of standard? Can one reviewer say, “Hey, wait a minute, look at this kid. He would make a great contribution to our university. We need to take a look again.”</p>
<p>Thats a good question I have no idea. I doubt it - with 50,000+ applications to go through (three times each), its unlikely there’s much time for reevaluation. Besides, I’m pretty sure the reviewers don’t know how many times the application has been looked at and what the other reviewers said.</p>
<p>I believe they told us at orientation that it is now FOUR reviewers and that ALL four had to agree to admit you.</p>
<p>That’s great. My chances just plummeted.</p>
<p>wow. This may have nothing to do with this thread, but I applied to UCLA and UVa, and this is the first time I’ve checked the UCLA forum. You guys are a lot…friendlier…than the UVa CC people. Maybe it’s an east coast competitiveness thing…</p>
<p>dood…california…is much more competitive than east coast because of the number of applicants applying to caltech, UC’s, stanford…</p>
<p>Crap…I make a horrible first impression…let alone 4 of them. Ah well.</p>
<p>Icarus, your source is probably reliable, but I will choose to err on the side of guarded belief…I am sure there has to be a backup system…what if there are 5000 spots and all 4 only agree on 4000? There has to be a tiered acceptance of some kind.</p>
<p>Who the hell knows…it only matters on the day you know…because the die is cast.</p>
<p>psh - we’re still more laid back :)</p>
<p>welcome to the UCLA boards, littleol’me… if you stick around, you’ll be hearing a lot from EG, Exilio, kfc, and me</p>
<p>“dood…california…is much more competitive than east coast because of the number of applicants applying to caltech, UC’s, stanford…”</p>
<p>and in the east coast, theres all 8 ivies, MIT, duke, georgetown, amherst, williams, swarthmore…</p>
<p>hmm i actually think the east coast is more competitive. california is so much more laid back! i have to say, we’re pretty friendly and usually anti-elitist. maybe one of the few things that gets us going is an argument about how USC is getting better than UCLA. </p>
<p>icarus, flopsy posts a lot too. i wonder what happened to shyboy13, haven’t seen him post for a while.</p>
<p>kfc,</p>
<p>USC…getting better? Et tu Brute?</p>
<p>I think SoCal as a whole is more laid back. Having lived on both ends of the state, I have seen that there is a considerable difference between NorCal and SoCal students. I think SoCal people are as competitive, but the difference is, they are more rounded than their NorCal brethren.</p>
<p>ah thats right, how could I forget about flopsy - I knew I would leave one of the regulars out…</p>
<p>well i dont see too much of a difference between norcal and socal students, besides the fact that a norcal student says “hella” a lot. i do think the competitiveness level, at least at first, is generally higher among socal students, because there is a higher concentration of good schools in socal. there are a lot of great schools in norcal too, but they are overall kind of spread out. also due to this high concentration of good schools, it leads to more extracurricular competition between each other, giving students more opportunities to be well-rounded. but neverthless, i’d say all top california kids are smart, somewhat competitive, and somewhat well-rounded. this is just based on personal observations.</p>
<p>I have to agree with you, kfc, east coast is more competetive. One of my sister’s friends went to Dartmouth after growing up in San Diego. She couldn’t take it it was so different there. They actually turned down taking trips to NYC, or anywhere else she suggested, in favor of studying. Who in SoCal has never skipped a day of school/left school early/gone out after school in the middle of the week, to go to the beach because it’s a nice day? Ok, maybe if you’re not very close to the beach you haven’t, but you probably went somewhere else. But then again, maybe my sister’s friend’s experience is an isolated case…</p>
<p>hmm… although i did hear that dartmouth is the party school among the ivies. </p>
<p>littleol’me, where are you from? just wondering, why UCLA and UVA?</p>
<p>I’m from a little old place between SD and LA. UVa because it has the programs I want, and it’s in the middle of the history that fascinates me. UCLA(and UCSD, really) because they are top UC’s(UCB does not interest me)and they’re in-state.<br>
In-state=parents can afford.</p>
<p>But people on the UVa board are getting “likely letters,” and most have great stats but say their essays aren’t so great(making them comment that UVa probably doesn’t really read the essays). My essays were my best bet. Sigh…crossed fingers for UCLA and UCSD.</p>
<p>Yeah, Dartmouth may be the party school of the ivies, but then, consider the party reputation of the rest…it’s like being king of the trash heap so far as partiers are concerned…</p>
<p>Ah I’m from that little old place, too (assuming, of course, that you’re speaking of Orange County).</p>
<p>nope, just south. we’re not in the middle of nowhere, we ARE the nowhere.</p>