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<p>Cangel, there all sorts of background glitches that you have to swallow but if you do, the movies would still be good <em>if well written/acted/directed.</em></p>
<p>E.g.:</p>
<p>Death Star construction: a snap using networks of self-replicating nanobots. </p>
<p>Jedi Powers: count the number of times that someone with Jedi powers–on either side–could have just used levititation or the like to get out of a situation. No, it’s used only at author’s convenience.</p>
<p>Medicine: already commented on. They’re retro. Of course, as we are reminded often, this is in <em>another</em> galaxy, a long time ago.</p>
<p>Urban design: wow, so many problems, from getting rid of excess heat to “where is the food coming from to support civic structures this large?”</p>
<p>Military tactics: clump people/units/fighters together so that one well-placed area weapon, the equivalent of a mortar round, can take them all out. Design high-center-of-gravity weapons systems with needlessly humanoid legs so that they topple faster than an SUV in a mild cross breeze. Etc.</p>
<p>Lderochi, I’ve used the same “Holy Trinity” line about the ending of 6 but the first half of the movie, through disposing of Jabba the Hutt, works pretty well. Structurally, you then have a eh?! transition where Luke goes back to Yoda just so Yoda can die after mumbling some forcial nonsense…and <em>then</em> the movie really starts to go to hell in a handbasket between the Ewoks on one hand and the portentious and winceable Luke/Darth/Emperor triangle. Lucas’ backfilling with Anakin killing all the younglings in 3 doesn’t square too well with the “there’s still some good in him” motif.</p>
<p>In some ways, 6 puts me in a mind of TITANIC, which is two different movies, before and after the ship hits the iceberg. Afterwards, it devolves into a fairly typical action-adventure flick. Before that it’s pretty promising.</p>
<p>I was thrilled and enthralled when the first one came out - I fell asleep this time. But EmeraldKity, you’ve made it all worthwhile! Thanks for the cut 'n paste.
About the “with us or against us” quote, it was hardly original with GWB. Stalin was a WUOAU guy; the sentiment has been ascribed to Hitler as well. The demand for absolute fealty, coupled with the suggestion that dissent equals treason, is not new and has been a staple of drama for a long time.</p>
<p>TD, point taken, but I still think the second half of 6 is sooo bad that it not only cancels out the first half it sends it plummeting to the bottom. You didn’t mention it, but the second half was even bad enough to overwhelm the scene with Leia in the bikini – now THAT’s saying something. :)</p>
<p>Just saw this yesterday with D. Oh yes do I agree the dialogue was wooden…</p>
<p>But my eyes must be getting old or else I’m slowing down: I just couldn’t keep up with the action scenes. The editor must be an MTV graduate. I could barely comprehend what was going on in a heavy action scene before it would cut away to another scene, then another. I mean heavens they poured millions into the technical effects and computerized animation so you’d think they wouldn’t mind letting the audience linger on a shot for more than a second to appreciate it, absorb some of the complexity, and be able to relate it to the previous shot? Some of it just seemed purposefully speeded up just to maintain the movie’s adrenaline. But I thought what a waste of effort for the tiny amount of time given each shot. Maybe only the foamers who buy the DVDs will be able to appreciate it.</p>
<p>Padme sounded like a 16-year-old whose party got out of control… “Oh no, my parents are sooo going to kill me.” She did not sound like a former Queen and current Senator. </p>
<p>How, with all of the technology, did no one know that she was carrying twins?!?</p>
<p>IMO, the reasons for Annakin going to the Dark Side were rather forced. There didn’t seem to be enough emotional drama there - perhaps had he sought the advice of the Jedi Council and been scorned… but no, he threw a fit. Grr.</p>
<p>Overall, much better than 1 & 2 (not that it says much…). With all of the violence, Lucas could have killed Jar-Jar (who, unlike the Ewoks, is not even cute and furry).</p>
<p>Aries, have I mentioned that when Star Wars first came out I looked very much like Harrison Ford?</p>
<p>Btw, I just read your description of Padme to TheMom and she said something along the lines of “Good take” or “Sounds about right.” (We went on to discuss the identity of Deep Throat and I forgot her exact words…<em>very</em> short term memory.)</p>
<p>TaraMom, while you’re trying on Freudian slips you might as well investigate Jungian negligees.</p>
<p>I get the feeling Anakin would have flunked the SATs. Strong in the force he may be, but weak in the brains he is (what Yoda really thought of Anakin).</p>
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<p>Sure, it was used by Cato the Younger and the reactionary senators at the end times of the Roman republic. And their populist opponent Julius Caesar said just the opposite: “If you are not against me, then you are with me.” But given where we are in 2005, I think it is far more likely that Lucas was harking back to GWB than all the way back to Cato. </p>
<p>OT: I kinda wish GWB had chosen to take the more inclusive approach that Caesar did. We might have hung on to more allies.</p>
<p>They don’t make movies like they used to. But this one was fantastic considering it didn’t have Han Solo or any really strong characters (other than Palpatine). Lucas redeemed himself, but I’ll still never forgive him for those 2 awful excuses for movies he called prequels.</p>
<p>My family and I are die-hard Sci-fi fans. I admit it. So sue me. And yes the acting was not great…but the movie was pretty “intense” and I must confess i enjoyed it…or, perhaps it is the fact that I so enjoy the “experience” of seeing it with my family and discussing afterwards???</p>
<p>But, who can forget (or groan loud enough in response to…) Anakin feeling “guilty” over killing (can’t remember his name!!!..Palpatine’s apprentice…the guy who had just had his hands sliced off by Anakin’s light saber…) a</p>
<p>WAIT FOR IT…</p>
<p>“UNARMED” man. </p>
<p>Yes, he really said that.</p>
<p>Yikes!!!</p>
<p>Anybody else wondering about Han Solo’s back story?</p>
<p>Skinnerian skivvies?</p>
<p>Han Solo:</p>
<p><a href=“Han Solo | StarWars.com”>Han Solo | StarWars.com;
<p>But can you all believe it? The last Star Wars, and Deep Throat, all in one week. As my husband said, we are nearly finished with the 1970’s. Now if we can only stop fighting the Vietnam War . . . . .</p>
<p>For 25 points (applicable to elevating your favorite school in your favorite rankings): A trooper in the clone army was referred to by name and rank several times (There may have been other troopers named, I picked up at least one other, but this is the only that referenced a sci-fi series). What early TV sci-fi series (based on a failed multi-part theatrical flop) had a lead character with the same name and rank?</p>
<p>Hint: The actor who played Uncle Jesse on the TV series “Dukes of Hazzard” had a recurring role in the same series if my memory servers me right.</p>
<p>Another Hint Below</p>
<p>There was also a rock group that used the same name.</p>
<p>Hey, guys, I loved the movie. Went back home and watched the old episode 4 I got years ago in a triology set and enjoyed it as well. Yeah, it was not perfect, could give some pointers to improve it, but all in all, I thought it was just fine. And the little ones were mesmerized.</p>
<p>“Aries, have I mentioned that when Star Wars first came out I looked very much like Harrison Ford?”</p>
<p>Yes, and you’ve also used your Jeungian negligee line before. I await confirmation on the HF phenomenon from TheDaughter.</p>
<p>Ya know, HF and JD wrapped up in one bod, is almost more than my poor 47 year old mind can comprehend.</p>
<p>Why did Akankin age 20 years through these movies, yet Padme didn’t age at all?</p>
<p>Was Yoda ever young?</p>
<p>Lastly, why didn’t we get to see the births of Lando and Jabba the Hut. It would have been great to see Jabba’s fatass mom or they could have made Lando’s mom really ghetto. LOL</p>