<p>Necrophiliac- hahaha, you’re right about the cost of the options, but I’m pretty sure I can overcome the cost of the premiums easily enough. Care to join me in a private equity venture? If need be we could use small amounts of capital to launch a hostile takeover company; I figure we would only need to buy out a few thousand lemonade stands before we can buy all the options we want.</p>
<p>@longstreet: too late, brown is already bottom of the ivy league :P</p>
<p>I would long Tsinghua and IIT, the developing world is one the rise so their universities must follow.</p>
<p>MIT is MIT enough said. Harvard will always be on the top.</p>
<p>Long on HYPS, where are the rooms for them to move up to? Who is Harvard going to leap frog over?</p>
<p>Well, by your definition (that “going long” is thinking a ranking will go up, and “shorting” is thinking it will decrease), I am forced to short Harvard. It is a great school, but at #1, the rank CANNOT go up, and must either stay the same (lose nothing by shorting) or go down (I make profit). But, then again, that’s capitalism, and I’m not fond of that. Don’t really want to short any schools, just felt like commenting on people “going long” on Harvard (again, nothing bad about Harvard, just mathematically impossible for its ranking to rise from number 1).</p>
<p>Of course, if these numbers were actual stock numbers and not 1-…, it would be different.</p>
<p>Long-
HYPSM prestigious and for good reason, don’t see them going down
Penn great undergrad and grad, acceptance going down and overall going up
U Chicago great school, increasing in value like ^</p>
<p>Short-
Wash U the most overrated school in the country, no idea how it is ranked so high
Duke like some other poster said their main draw is their basketball team
Brown I’d like to be brutally honest about why I’d short Brown but so many other people have already said it
Cornell too many public programs, getting less selective
UC used to be good</p>
<p>aaah the perennial Penn inferiority-complex circle-jerk. this thread WOULD be in the Penn forum. f****** losers.</p>
<p>Indeed. The only way to be more losery is to come in, visit, and feel compelled to comment on just how big losers they are. I am sure you are doing so from your private yacht in between seducing supermodels, because you, in contrast to us, are a f****** winner.</p>
<p>long: penn, brown( saw the largest ivy increase in apps and is becoming quite popular, <em>cough cough</em> emma whatson, even though the education is not amazing), princeton (even though some have lost interest in the institution due to its grade deflation, those who do attend and receive decent gpa’s look extremely enticing to grad schools), u chicago, Rice, Northwestern, MIT, Georgetown
Short: LACs, Harvard (the name can only last so long and when you are already at the top, the only place you can go is down), Yale (their decrease in applications says it all), Cornell (need i say more), Notre Dame, Duke</p>
<p>^What you said about Harvard also applies to Penn. It will never break the top 3, so the only place you can go from there is down.</p>
<p>Of course this is the Penn forum, so I understand.</p>
<p>^With what logic does Harvard situation the same as Penn. Harvard is at he top, it will probably stay at the top but it could never go up. It is a certain impossibility that Harvard can go up, not quite the same situation for Penn, no matter how improbable it is.</p>
<p>I see what you mean. Damn Harvard’s name lol! Penn is still amazing though :)</p>
<p>It’s stupid to say that Harvard can “never go up.” It won’t go up in rankings but it could go up in quality, that is always possible.</p>
<p>Don’t you guys know to buy low and sell high?</p>
<p>I’m gonna buy:
[ul][<em>]Brown (just get a big donor in there to start a law or business school and they’ll be in good shape)
[</em>] Cal Poly SLO (buy it cheap and sell it in 10 years for a good price)
[<em>] Stanford (…)
[</em>] Harvard (…)
[<em>] Columbia (…)
[</em>] MIT (…)
[<em>] USC (great network)
[</em>] Caltech (…)[/ul]</p>
<p>^rotflmaospencer, it can never go up in ranking/prestige, that is what I meant, and that is the original premise of the topic, I thought. And how can you ascertain that the quality goes up, how do you measure that?</p>
<p>I’d go long on UCSD. And hedge this by shorting UCLA.</p>
<p>CMU is extremely undervalued too. I’d load up on this position. Tech schools are generally a good buy.</p>
<p>@Scotchtape</p>
<p>no need to call us f***ing losers, but i agree. smh as these type of threads in the penn section, just makes us seem insecure.</p>
<p>and yes i’m going to penn next year.</p>
<p>Long Brown (it’s admit rate is dropping)
Long Harvard
Long UChicago
Long Yale
Long MIT</p>
<p>Short Penn (worst IVY)
Short Columbia
Short Dartmouth
Short Cornell (almost as bad as Penn)</p>
<p>cool thread</p>
<p>short term (like a couple of years):
Long: Columbia, Stanford, Yale, Brown, Cornell
short: Caltech, Duke, U Penn, UChicago, UCs, WUSTL</p>
<p>Long term (like 10-15 years):</p>
<p>Long: Upenn, Columbia (gotta be long my own alma :p), Stanford, Rice, USC
Short: Caltech, MIT, UCs, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Notre Dame, Cornell,</p>