<p>RugBurn: Are you arguing that no one owns their money?</p>
<p>you pay money so that all of the services the government provides for you stay in existance.</p>
<p>the cops? the highway system? the firefighters? the teachers?</p>
<p>hmm…yea, stealing it is.</p>
<p>I want to have acommune in VT. We’d be hippiesand frolick in the marijuana fields. Everyone would read Kyles B&B and we’d discuss Brad’s power hitting skils. JK Anyway we would sit around and do nothing. We will alsotalk aboutEduardo and his cool self</p>
<p>Cops? Not federally funded, irrelevant.
Highway system? Constitutionally sound. Good job.
Firefighters? Not federally funded, irrelevant.
Teachers? Abolish public schooling.</p>
<p>abolish public schooling?</p>
<p>so you wanna explain that one?</p>
<p>Quite easy. The public education in the United States sucks despite the fact that we spend more than most countries. And we get outpeformed on standardized tests, for example, the test that PISA conducts. Countries like Poland and Slovakia own us. Teachers are sub par, the education is Dewey influenced **<strong><em>, not enough emphasis placed on actual studying, </em></strong> grading, etc etc etc. Schools waste too much taxpayer $$ without any return. Privatizing is the only hope.</p>
<p>Right I get that part, I agree that our schools are underperforming. But how are you going to education those who cant afford private school? From government money collected from taxes?</p>
<p>Well I agree for the most part, the public schools in my area are doing phenomenally.</p>
<p>No. When you abolish or decreasing taxes enough, people can afford. Its not exactly that they are getting an amazing education now.</p>
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And the average temperature in Rochester has decreased over the last century. Do you still believe in global warming?</p>
<p>youre telling me a married couple making $50,000 a year in NYC can afford, even if their taxes are lower, private schooling, which can cost up to $60,000 per year?</p>
<p>Well my area is a great example why if you raise taxes, albeit not federal taxes, your public schools will get better. There is a correlation between the amount of money spent per student and performance on standardized tests on long island.</p>
<p>They can homeschool and get better results. My school is ranked high, but when I look around, its full of dumbasses. The point I am trying to get across is this…even if you think your public school is elite, chances are that you are going to get owned by kids from other countries (while wasting $$$)</p>
<p>you expect a child to have the discipline or the parents to have the time to homeschool a kid from 5-18 years old?</p>
<p>come on, thats bs.</p>
<p>Parents are working two jobs so that their kids can have a place to sleep at night…and you expect them to homeschool their children? completely unrealistic.</p>
<p>People have two jobs because they want better things. Very few people absolutely need two jobs to pay rent, food, electricity, etc. Its that new BMW, or that new watch, or suit that second job pays for. Gotta choose. Thats life.</p>
<p>What’s your scheme? Steal money from everyone for an average education? That’s pretty much what is going on right now.</p>
<p>There will be private schools made to meet the demand for low income schooling - private schools spend on average MUCH LESS per student to educate them far better.</p>
<p>care to explain how there will be private schools who will offer thousands of kids tuition for free?</p>
<p>Private charity instead of government extortion?</p>
<p>If private charities cant afford to send every child who needs money to their college, what makes you think that this could be extended to apply for children from the ages of 5-18?</p>
<p>I don’t know why you bring up the PISA tests when the number one country is Finland - which has public education! Kind of undercuts, uh, everything.</p>
<p>Now back me!
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<p>…Uh, yes. The government always owns “the money.” You own pretty but intrinsically worthless slips of paper. The only reason why money even exists is because the government has issued a fiat to give it value. So yes, the government does own its money; that’s why it can throw you in prison for defacing its money.</p>
<p>And really, you don’t have any property without the government say-so, being that it is the final arbitrator on what is and isn’t yours. If you think taxation is in essence robbery, then you should form your own government and not piggy back on this one, which provides the framework, security, and assurances for businesses and people to make money in the first place.</p>
<p>I’d love to - but in this country’s history - only two groups of people have rebelled against an unjust government to form a land of freedom.</p>
<p>The founding fathers in 1776 - ended with the formation of a once-great country.
When that country turned tyrannical, states seceded from this union much like the founding fathers did in 1860 and DID form a new government - the Confederate States of America. We saw a brutal and bloodthirsty war waged by a dictator to stop this. What makes you think it wouldn’t happen again?</p>
<p>Also, Americans once owned their money - just because we have been robbed does not mean it is right.</p>
<p>Bob, one room school houses were funded privately, and it seemed as if most people could manage to afford them. If public schools were abolished, then churches, businesses, and people of the private sector could support schooling.</p>
<pre><code> Bob, late 1800s to 1920s, multitudes of families in a certain city or district would “chip in” to one large fund to establish a school in the area. Thus, these “one room schoolhouses” were not mandated and dictated ny the government, but rather the parents and teachers who knew what was best for their children. As a result, children during these days were better educated of both academia and real life situations. Heck, in the mid 1800s, all children in grammar school were required to learn Latin or another foreign language.
I try to say during those days, American children seemed to be educated just fine without the governments hand in the matters.
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<p>I believe that parents should be responsible for finding the means to educate their children.
Our schooling system would be much better off if it were privately endowed, and all parents would be required to pay a small amount for their child to be educated. Thats right, no more teaching to a standardized test, no more state mandated course syllabus. Imagine a school without government requirements or restriction so that a teacher can finally TEACH, rather than being hindered in every direction.</p>