<p>The Ivy League isn’t about academic prestige–it’s just an athletic conference of really, really old schools on the east coast, the end. It’s really after the fact that they were ever recognized for having good academics. For that reason, I could only see them adding schools that are on the East Coast and old as all hell. So I’d say it would be William & Mary and maybe MIT, Duke, UVA, Georgetown, or Rutgers. They’re all old as dirt.</p>
<p>Cornell is not that much bigger than Penn, so it doesn’t have that much to do with size. UChicago doesn’t make any sense because it’s ~ 1,000 miles away from the northeast. As a sports conference, the Ivy League is much better than any teams that UChicago is fielding. UChicago did have a tradition in football, but dropped the sport after the 1939 season. When UChicago was in the Big Ten in the 1930’s the teams of the northeast that now play Div I-AA (Ivy & Patriot League) were just as strong in football as the Big Ten schools, but wanted to de-emphasize big time football and this is what led to the formation of these new leagues. UChicago took this a step further by dropping their program altogether for the next 30 years and then only had one winning season in their first 25 years of re-existence with a weak Div III schedule after that.</p>
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<p>biztogo, Chicago may have dropped out of division I sports, but it is still associated to the Big 10 academically.</p>
<p>I agree with semiserious. Given, the Ivy League name goes beyond the old sports conference now, but it just wouldn’t make sense to add a school that isn’t in the general area. I think it’d just destroy the whole tradition.
So no. Not Stanford. Nonono.</p>
<p>My votes would go to MIT and William & Mary.</p>
<p>I don’t think MIT fits in with the Ivy League, as it focuses so much more on science than anything else. They don’t have many humanities majors, and many of the ones they do offer require classes be taken at…Harvard!</p>
<p>So, I would give my votes to Duke and Stanford. They may not be Northeast, but they fit the prestige feel of the Ivy League…and they’re both considerably old, though not “first colleges of America” necessarily.</p>
<p>Not only are Duke and Stanford not the first colleges, but are not even in the top 80 and will never consistently play the Ivys in sports. I would say Williams & Amherst make more sense based on feel (and being in the northeast is part of the feel).</p>
<p>The Ivy league is just a sports conference, why would they add anymore schools?</p>
<p>Its much more than a sports conference now…that is just why it was founded.</p>
<p>" I would say Williams & Amherst make more sense based on feel (and being in the northeast is part of the feel)."</p>
<p>Agreed, except that they’re both D3. Although the jump to the D1aa Ivy League would probably not be too difficult, for Williams especially since they tend to have some strong D3 teams. I don’t know about Amhearst.</p>
<p>Alexandre, I personally think Big Ten is a great conference, not only in sports…</p>
<p>those 11 schools all have very strong school spirit. Academically, they are strong too, especially in science and engineering. Since ppl are talking about ivy, I feel like Cornell is more like a Big Ten school.</p>
<p>I remember that ND declined Big Ten’s invitation a few years ago, I wasn’t so sure why.</p>
<p>Notre Dame football has always taken pride in its “Independent” status. Too bad. Can you imagine having Michigan, Notre Dame, OSU and PSU in the same conference? That’s like 4 of the 10 most storried football programs under one roof. From an academics point of view, the CIC already has Chicago, Michigan, Northwestern and Wisconsin. Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota and PSU are pretty awesome too. Adding Notre Dame would have been great. I still think it is only innevitable for Notre Dame to join the Big 10.</p>
<p>I guess ND might have considered that invitation many time. It was hard to decide though, considering Big Ten is such a tough conference. Even Joe Pa has always been talking about its toughness.</p>
<p>UPenn has to talk about being tough in some way.</p>
<p>Hey, Gellino, Would you please post your list about “~ 15 major consulting firms’ target schools” ? I was told by some of my business-field friends that Cornell is not considered one of them, and I didn’t agree with them.</p>
<p>Refresh my memory. In what context was I talking about “~ 15 major consulting firms’ target schools” ?</p>
<p>I think Williams is the only school that can possibly fit into the Ivy league. It has pretty good sports for an LAC, although not up to par with the Ivies’. (nothing wrong with LAC’s - after all, D’mouth is more of an LAC).</p>
<p>Gtown and UChicago are too far away from the northeast. MIT is the second best candidate, but still far off.</p>
<p>Your words:</p>
<p>"In my analyst class of 70 (probably a typical experience), 19 stayed on for a third year and nine were promoted to associate. Analysts and Associates probably do average 80-90 hours per week. You’re not making seven figures until the SVP level, but analysts probably range from $75K-$150K and associates from $150K-$500K depending on years of experience and performance. Out of undergrad, it is probably easier to get into IB (there are many more positions) than consulting. Hours in consulting are much closer to 55-70 per week (depending on the firm and experience), although potentially significant additional travel can take its toll. Compensation in consulting starts off nearly comparable, but doesn’t come close to ramping up as quickly. Out of undergrad, to go into consulting, you really need to have gone to one of ~ 15 schools to have a shot (w/o being extremely lucky), while banking recruiting spreads a wider net and going to one of ~ 40 schools gives you a legitamite shot. After getting an MBA, both professions recruit relatively equally from the top 10-15 "schools.</p>
<p>In one of my friends’ list, Cornell is not in. He works at Mckinsey.</p>
<p>Three midwest schools, UChicago, Northwestern, UMichigan, are in his list. He recuited undergrad for Mckinsey.</p>
<p>First two candidates: Williams and Amherst</p>
<p>Possible other candidates: NYU, MIT, Stanford, and CalTech (the latter two may not be the most feasible candidates considering their locations and how they wouldn’t work too well w/ the traditional NE location of the “Ancient 8.”)</p>