If You Couldn't Live in the USA...?

Based on my kids’ friends, it seems a lot of recent college grads are moving to Berlin.

I have family in Croatia–specifically the Dalmatian coast. I am somewhat fluent in Serbo-Croatian, so it (Croatia) would be one option. I also think that New Zealand is amazingly beautiful and would consider it as well.

Vancouver, Canada but I’d have to get used to the cold. Maybe Candace Olsen or Sarah Richardson could decorate my house!

Vancouver, BC is about the warmest city on Canada, comparable to Seattle.

Spain.

Beautiful country, rich history…
They sleep late, stay up late, and snack and drink wine all night. What’s not to like?

(Oh, and housing/rent is cheaper than in other parts of southern Europe.)

My daughter is currently living in Denmark and fully embraces their socialism. Their income tax is 40-50%, and they love it. She has found that the Danes actually brag about the benefits their high taxes bring them. When my husband and I visited for a week, we got to know the neighbors. They very quickly engaged in conversations regarding the benefits they receive from their government. It has opened up my eyes.

^^^Unemployment rate of 22.7%, lowest since 2011!
http://www.wsj.com/articles/spains-unemployment-rate-at-lowest-level-since-2011-1437649879

For some strange reason, Germany immediately popped into my mind though realistically it should be Canada or England.

Interesting re: so many saying, Canada. My D says she eventually wants to move to Canada.

I’ve only been to Canada once, we spent a few days in Toronto after seeing Niagara Falls. Toronto is a very nice city, and we enjoyed our time there. I’d love to visit Montreal someday, but haven’t yet… Maybe I should, soon.

Anywhere but Canada;). Can I pick Texas? They generally think they are their own country. No?

If still working: London

Otherwise Mexico City

I was an exchange student in Denmark, love the Danes and their way of life but the dark cold winters would be a deal breaker for me. I also lived in Italy for about a year and a half. Love the language, the food and the culture, but the male chauvinism and materialism drives me up the wall. Another deal breaker is language. Though I have no problem with learning new languages, H is hopeless. In fact coming up in a few weeks time we will be in Paris for a month. I am already dreading the constant task of translating France for him. He seems to think that this stay will be a “trial run” for us, as he would love to move to France or Germany. (D has lived in Germany for the last two years and does not seem to be ready to come back any time soon. She has a great lifestyle there and appreciates the “free” healthcare and the ability to work in her metier. Unlike the US, Germany is a country that values classical music.)

@TomSrOfBoston , I don’t plan on working there! :slight_smile: I’m happy to help spend some money on food and wine and get the economy going again, too…

Btw, the unemployment rate there has been low for some time. It’s actually been around 20% for a while - and even lower in Andalusia. When you visit, it doesn’t seem like it - plenty of natives are out and about, shopping, eating… But I’m sure the smaller towns where not many tourists go are feeling it the most.

20% unemployment is low? :open_mouth: Imagine how that unemployment figure would play out here in the U.S.

Btw, the unemployment rate there has been low for some time. It's actually been around 20% for a while - and even lower in Andalusia. When you visit, it doesn't seem like it - plenty of natives are out and about, shopping, eating...

Maybe they are out shopping because they aren’t at work. :wink:

Switzerland.

Switzerland wins pretty much every quality of life ranking you see these days. I’ve been there and it’s great. They have everything. If for some reason I couldn’t stay in the US I’d head for the Lake Geneva area. But you have to be persistent to become Swiss. The naturalization process for immigrants takes a minimum of 15 years.

Under German law, I (along with my son) have an absolute right to German citizenship – which I plan to take advantage of one of these days – because of the deprivation of my mother’s and grandparents’ German citizenship during the Hitler era. Once I do that, I could live and work anywhere in the EU. Of the places in the EU where I’ve been, I can (being a New Yorker!) easily imagine living in Berlin (where my mother was born and her father’s family had lived since the 1870s) or London. So probably my answer would be one of those two. Although I also found southwest Germany, specifically the area of the Schwarzwald around Freiburg (where my maternal grandmother’s family was from) very appealing. (Perhaps I should note that I don’t hold what happened to my mother and her family against today’s generations of Germans. When I first visited Germany more than 40 years ago, my feelings were very different.)

I remember once (mid 1980s) sitting next to someone in a biergarten who had been in the SS and thought it had been great. That was creepy, but I don’t think there are too many of that generation left.

“Perhaps I should note that I don’t hold what happened to my mother and her family against today’s generations of Germans. When I first visited Germany more than 40 years ago, my feelings were very different.”

Similar background, @DonnaL Identical reaction to modern Germans. It took me a LONG time to let go of the anger, antipathy, distrust and disgust. But I got there. Nice to know people can change :wink:

PS. My own mother: not so much. She’s still prone to shuddering involuntarily when she hears German. A language she actually spoke fluently as a child.

Mathmom, back in 1972, I looked at every single person over 50 with distrust, and wondered what they’d been doing 30 years earlier. As you say, there aren’t many of those people left – they’d all have to be at least 90 now.

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I hope you come out alive. :wink:

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