<p>So they are savages because they eat beef and forgot to turn the faucet off? I know I’m gonna get the “stop using the race card” comments but damn this thread had turned into a Mexican bashing why all the hating?</p>
<p>“This happens all the time. When I was in southern Florida, I’d see dozens of Mexicans hanging out outside gas stations. My aunt, who lives there, told me that people come by with pickup trucks to hire them.”</p>
<p>How do you know they were Mexican… not all Hispanics are Mexican did you ask them their nationality… and yes it does matter because we’ve become America’s scapegoat for all the problems with the economy its too easy to blame things on the “poor ignorant Mexican” and besides it is Florida did you ever consider that they might be Cuban?</p>
<p>“Down the street from me is this older white man. He recently bought the house. It wasn’t in good condition. About a few days later, I see a ton of mexicans. Repairing the house in such, and sometimes just sitting outside playing football or w/e. And from this point on, they now live with him. I’m guessing they work for him, and in return he provides them with housing and food. I notice none of the cars have license plates. Do you call the police and let them know? Or should I just let it go?”</p>
<p>Good to know there are people out there looking out for welfare of us all. Dude call the police if this bothers you enough to start a thread on CC about it but why ask for people’s opinions you are blowing the issue out of proportion if you call the police they’ll come over and see if theyr’e illegal or not and if they r they’ll get deported is all and you will stop wondering to yourself what you should do. Have you ever met a Mexican in your life?</p>
<p>I don’t disagree with you on that and its normal for people to hate on someone they view as a threat…do you have IM Im a senior at ucla and I have no clue what to do after Im a poli sci comparative politics major</p>
<p>Whoever compared Cubans to Mexicans is an uninformed ■■■■■■■■■. Cubans work 10 times harder than Mexicans. NOT TO MENTION THE MAJORITY ARE FILTHY RICH. MY DAD IS A WEALTHY CUBAN. They pay 30 times the taxes mexicans pay. They cause no trouble whatsoever. The two cultures are completely different. Cubans put a high value on education. MEXICANS PUT ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE ON EDUCATION. Miami would be nowhere near what it is today witout the Cubans. God this forum is full of idiots. </p>
<p>The illegal alien issue will be a huge problem for America soon. It will get very ugly very fast. They will soon demand free healthcare and food for all their hardwork. They will send America spiraling towards socialism.</p>
<p>“MEXICANS PUT ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE ON EDUCATION” </p>
<p>This comment is ignorant and speaks for itself. Do not assume that your experiences with a certain race hold true for the majority. How can you say such a dumb thing? As an American with Mexican parents I can tell you that my parents instilled in my siblings and I strong values for hard work and education. My parents are hardworking contributing members of society and because of their hard work were able to put all their kids through college. My sister is getting her MBA from the Anderson school my eldest brother graduated from USC with a degree in Math and I’m pursuing a law degree and I can guarantee you that if it were not for my parents’ strong value on education we would not have accomplished half of what weve already done.</p>
<p>“Whoever compared Cubans to Mexicans is an uninformed ■■■■■■■■■. Cubans work 10 times harder than Mexicans.” </p>
<p>I take nothing away from the many Cuban Americans that helped make the state of Florida what it is today but don’t put one race down to highlight the accomplishments of another. How dare someone compare Mexicans to Cubans? Are you serious? Are you that prejudice? I know most Cubans are conservative and republican but you definately do not represent the majority you are a sad representation. America Spiraling down to socialism? hardly… but I guess you better go to Cuba where I hear Castro is near death and where there will be a free democratic state. Please come to California and take a look for yourself as to who is doing the dirty work and labor before you post such ignorant comments.</p>
<p>“MEXICANS PUT ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE ON EDUCATION” </p>
<p>This comment is ignorant and speaks for itself. Do not assume that your experiences with a certain race hold true for the majority. How can you say such a dumb thing? As an American with Mexican parents I can tell you that my parents instilled in my siblings and I strong values for hard work and education. My parents are hardworking contributing members of society and because of their hard work were able to put all their kids through college. My sister is getting her MBA from the Anderson school my eldest brother graduated from USC with a degree in Math and I’m pursuing a law degree and I can guarantee you that if it were not my parents’ strong value on education we would not have accomplished half of what weve already done.</p>
<p>“Whoever compared Cubans to Mexicans is an uninformed ■■■■■■■■■. Cubans work 10 times harder than Mexicans.” </p>
<p>I take nothing away from the many Cuban Americans that helped make the state of Florida what it is today but don’t put another race down to highlight the accomplishments of another. How dare someone compare Mexicans to Cubans? Are you serious? Are you that prejudice? I know most Cubans are conservative and republican but you definately do not represent the majority you are a sad representation. America Spiraling down to socialism? hardly… but I guess you better go to Cuba where I hear Castro is near death and where there will be a free democratic state. Please come to California and take a look for yourself as to who is doing the dirty work and labor before you post such ignorant comments.</p>
cubans are typically filthy rich…hahahahahhaha. that has to be the most ■■■■■■■■ commment ever. and i’m not laughing b/c i think they are all poor. i’m just smart enought to know that yes, there are rich cubans out there, but the majority aren’t rich as hell. they’re middle class. i mean, it fluctuates like any other race. but there’s no way most of them are filthy rich. i’m sure cubans cause some trouble…jeez. miami’s crime isn’t just blacks and whites. its cubans, puerto ricans, and any other race that lives down there. and trust me i know most of cubans don’t put education any higher or lower than mexicans. yes mexicans have a high drop out rate and such, but its not like cuban culture specifically focuses on education anymore than mexicans. and how can you say mexicans put no value on education. oh my god you’re ignorant. i agree that miami would not have been what it is today if it weren’t for cubans. they contribute a lot to the culture and what makes miami. </p>
<p>but just b/c you’re half cuban and your dad happens to be rich and doesn’t cause trouble doesn’t speak for all of his people… the same goes for the way one mexican janitor doesn’t speak for all mexicans. you need a reality check and a culture shock…startin with your own.</p>
<p>jsut for the record im’ not trying to put cubans down in any way. but when you say that most of them are rich and cause no trouble, well damn, the only way to go is down. i</p>
<p>Yeah, that comment about all cubans being filthy rich is really stupid. If he was so rich why didn’t he, and all the other cubans who came to the US, stay in Cuba?</p>
<p>That’s like saying my grandma is wealthy and she wears necklaces.</p>
<p>EVERYONE WHO WEARS NECKLACES ARE RICH.</p>
<p>That was a dumb analogy, but whatever. You get my point.</p>
<p>I offer the simplest solution I have yet heard to illegal immigration and the claim that they are “stealing our jobs” or “driving down wages.”</p>
<p>Actually enforce the minimum wage. If this were the case, employers would derive no benefit from hiring illegal immigrants and render any claims of job stealing moot. </p>
<p>Furthermore, just to add a small comment to the Cuban-Mexican debate, proportionately, the Cuban immigrants who “built” Miami into what it is today were middle to upper class professionals who feared that their property would be confiscated by Castro’s regime and feld the country with both their education and money intact. Later periods of immigration were marked by lower class individuals attempting to gain economic prosperity in America, or criminals deported by Castro.</p>
<p>Obviously I am talking about Cubans in America you idiots. I am not racist at all. The mexicans I am referring to are the ones located in downtown LA, and surrounding areas. I have seen first hand that the majority put no value on education. The droupout rates are enormous. You know this, I know this, everyone knows this. Mexibruin not even you can BS out of that one. </p>
<p>Cubans are extremely rich. You guys just look at the minority of them. Go look at who lives in the penthouse suites in Miami. Cingular wireless is run by a Cuban last time I checked. Stop ********ting yourselves. You guys need to have a conversation with an americanized Cuban. You will see all he cares about is money. </p>
<p>This is not racist, but if you compare a Cuban to a Mexican, he will punch you. I have many mexican friends, so how can I be a bigot. Be quiet guys and stop with the ridiculous political correctness. </p>
<p>Here come the insults from the highschoolers.</p>
<p>Tony Montana is another Cuban success in Miami… I’m watching Scarface right now. We can all learn a lesson or two from these hard-working Cubans.</p>
<p>I like how you use the oldest trick in the book: “I have ______ friends, therefore I’m not bigoted.” They’re the “good ones,” right? Like how someone once told me that I’m a “good Jew?”</p>
<p>:rolleyes:</p>
<p>I’m sure that the ONLY reason that Mexicans have high dropout rates is no value on education. It has nothing to do with conflicting values, poverty, and things like that. Nope. They just hate them darned schools. Yep. </p>
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<p>The fact that many political exiles were influential or wealthy has nothing to do with this, right?</p>
um…no…YOU are looking at the minority of them. probably the ones that live in your rich gated community. in case you didn’t know, there are a lot more in cities other than miami across florida and the US that have cubans in them. i lived in different states, including FL, and trust me, i’ve seen cubans in all of them. and most were middle class. in ANY country there are families of high status, middle, and low. and esp in hispanic countries, you see a lot more of division between the bulk of the population which is lower-middle class and the small amount, but very wealthy high class families.</p>
<p>wow, the head of cingular is cuban. that must mean that ALL cubans are great businessmen and care only about money. look, i’m not taking away from that, it’s a great accomplishment by a cuban man i’m i’m proud that he’s hispanic…but this only proves that cubans are capable of these things, not that they are all this way. jesus. oscar de la renta was 1/2 puerto rican so that MUST mean all puerto ricans care about fashion and are wealthy b/c of it…didn’t think so.</p>
<p>i’ve actually had MANY conversations with americanized cubans, cubans that were born in the US, and those that have immigrated to the US. and no, they are not all the same. the “americanized” cubans are probably the ONLY one you speak to. yes, the ones that are of cuban descent but have absolutely no real grasp of their own culture and assume just b/c they are rich that all other cubans are. the ones that were born here and immigrate here but still care about their culture are the ones you seem to not know about, unfortunately.</p>
<p>it’s funny you say that any AMERICANIZED cuban care ONLY about money. haha. so basically its because they are more AMERICAN that they care ONLY about money. so it’s not really b/c they are cuban, more so b/c they are AMERICANIZED. it’s sad that americanized cubans are that shallow, in your opinion.</p>
<p>anyway, who doesn’t care about money, no matter race? given, it’s not ALL most people care about (unlike AMERICANIZED cubans…as you said), but EVERYONE cares about it to some extent.</p>
<p>“Mexibruin not even you can BS out of that one.” </p>
<p>Probably not but I’m still gonna try…</p>
<p>“I have many mexican friends, so how can I be a bigot.”</p>
<p>Your logic is weak. That’s like saying I have a black friend therefore I can’t possibly be a racist and I can use the N word because I have my ghetto pass you are worse than I thought… You say you are talking about the Mexicans over in downtown L.A. and in Florida right?.. but wait you didnt say that in your comment if I recall you said “Mexicans don’t put a value on education” and the majority are dropouts and don’t value education as well, are these the Mexicans over “there” as well? Because all the Mexicans students Iv’e met over “here” put an extemely high importance on education… I should mention I work as a tutor for the Med COR program at USC which aims to facilitate the transition of historically underprivileged students from high school to an institute of higher educationand every saturday these kids four hours at the USC campus working on deivatives or studying for their AP’s while their parents are in workshops in other rooms learning about financial aid and other college related classes that will help their children (hardly behavior from aomeone who doesn’t value education do you agree?)
<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/programs/uscmedcor/[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/programs/uscmedcor/</a> <<<check it out ;)</p>
<p>“The mexicans I am referring to are the ones located in downtown LA, and surrounding areas. I have seen first hand that the majority put no value on education.”</p>
<p>WOW… funny that you mention that seeing how I was born and raised in downtown LA and now live in a surrounding area (echo park next to dodger stadium I can actually see the downtown skyline from my front yard) as do the majority of the students I tutor which I may add are extremely brilliant and will put you and me to shame. Like I said, do not use your small encounters of Mexicans from “downtown LA” to assume that the entire race or the majority for that matter don’t care about education. Your ethnocentricity is at an extreme and borders on racist you may not see it but I can tell you that I am not the only one that will agree.</p>
<p>As for your comment that a Cuban owns or runs Cingular?.. Are we supposed to be in awe of this or something or concede to your statement about the majority of Cuban Americans being filthy rich? dude… c’mon. I don’t think that even you believe that. I can give you a list of Wealhty Irish Americans, Mexican Americans, Native Americans (casinos) but I won’t I’m sure you know they exist. We have a spectrum of diversity as far as class, intelligence and success achieved in every race so don’t be narrow-minded and put a narrow-minded comment saying that the Mexicans in downtown LA do not value downtown L.A. because its false. Please post or email me a copy of the survey you conducted and a link to the statistics that led you to believe your claim: <a href=“mailto:franquez@ucla.edu”>franquez@ucla.edu</a> Id really appreciate it.</p>