<p>There are scientists who disagree with Gore. What he said in the movie was that there was no scientifc paper in a “peer-reviewed journal” which questioned his viewpoint. It should be easy enough for someone here to find such a paper, if one exists.</p>
<p>It would not be enough to find a post from a blog funded by a petroleum industry lobbyist. Someone would have to cite the author, paper, journal and issue. I’m not saying that aren’t such papers, I don’t know if there is or not. But that is the specific thing to challenge if you wanted to follow through.</p>
<p>FF–I in turn disagree! If I decided to continue to eat/live in an unhealthful way, just because my doctor also does, than more fool am I. He won’t be hurt by it–I will.</p>
<p>Doesn’t make global warming real if there isn’t. There are thousands of scientists who are not paid by either government grants not Exxon money who protest this travesty to real science.</p>
<p>Here are a few gems from the IPCC</p>
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Special Report on Emissions Scenarios (2000)</p>
<p>In any case, I was not aware that scientific fact is derived from polling and consensus.
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<p>Global warming might be significantly worse than expected during the next century because the melting of carbon-rich permafrost in Siberia could expel hundreds of billions of tons of extra greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, scientists warn in a new study.</p>
<p>My question is, why such a vehement denial from some people…why the interest in denying global warming, and why not,e ven if global warming is slower than most people think, why not still take the very simple steps that we ALREADY have the science and technology for that doesn’t do any harm, but can actually help…why not make cars cleaner, why not use better appliances, why not?</p>
<p>Why are some people so against making simple changes, and encouraging businesses to do the same…gee Japan, a major economic player did, even China is making changes, why are we so afarid to say gee, that polution is not good</p>
<p>why the fear of moving forward techonologically> I don’t understand why people are so afraid of simple changes that will do no harm…and will actually help business wih new products…gosh please explain the fear of doing things cleaner, more efficiently, and better?</p>
There’s more in the article, including an explanation of why scientists must work in the climate field in order to knowledgeably opine on global warming.</p>
Here in lies the biggest problem with Gore’s message - people walk away from his talks and movies thinking that it is a rather simple solution and all we have to do is cut back a bit and all will be well. He promotes the easy way out - one which, if followed, and if the theories behind global warming are true, will result in big problems down the road. </p>
<p>By providing a false sense of security, he is more a part of the problem than the solution. If he truly believed in his position of global warming being akin to the holocaust, he should be advocating a much more robust solution involving research on new energy sources and use of nuclear energy … kind of like Bush.</p>
<p>I am not against doing things clearner, more efficiently, and better. I support all those goals. There are many things we can do to make the world a better place to live. For example, we can work harder to provide clean water to people in third world countries so they don’t get water-borne illnesses, the leading cause of death in most poor countries. We can also work to improve logging and manufacturing industries in China, India, and other developing countries with rapidly expanding economies, a major source of world-wide air pollution and ozone damage. </p>
<p>Please read The Skeptical Environmentalist. The author is a university professor and researcher, a renowned statistician, and a committed crusader for the environment. He decided to prove (using statistical analysis of UN, UNESCO, and WHO reports) that people and economies like the US are toxic to the earth. He wanted to wake people up to the dangers facing the environment but when he actually did the statistical research, he found that the current conventional wisdom on the environment is simply wrong. It turns out those “simple changes that will do no harm” are neither simple nor harmless. He also was able to pinpoint things we can do that will make a difference.</p>
<p>Most people want to live in a clean world and leave the world a better place for our children. We disagree on how that should be accomplished. I can tell you care about this subject. I do, too.</p>
<p>Here’s a few real research papers for you, Dadguy. I’m not going to tell you I know who’s right…but I do think that Al Gore’s tiresome reiteration that “the debate is over” is clearly false. There’s a lot more of Michael Moore than of scientist about him.</p>
<p>"Here in lies the biggest problem with Gore’s message - people walk away from his talks and movies thinking that it is a rather simple solution and all we have to do is cut back a bit and all will be well. He promotes the easy way out - one which, if followed, and if the theories behind global warming are true, will result in big problems down the road. </p>
<p>By providing a false sense of security, he is more a part of the problem than the solution. If he truly believed in his position of global warming being akin to the holocaust, he should be advocating a much more robust solution involving research on new energy sources and use of nuclear energy … kind of like Bush."</p>
<p>Actually, you had me until the last sentence. If he truly believed it, he should be advocating the abolition of the military (a giant energy sinkhole), severe restrictions on foreign trade (massive amounts of energy utilized in the shipment of goods and services), much heavier taxes on roads (to promote production of goods and services regionally and subregionally), major restrictions on food importation (to prevent cutting and clearing of rainforests), ration cards for meat (after all, we only have 10 years before things become irreversible)…the list can go on.</p>
<p>I don’t think AL GORE believes what he says, or this is what he’d be advocating.</p>
<p>Or how about the oil companies putting their record profits into research, instead of taking tax breaks…gosh, that is a thought</p>
<p>Some people act like takng care of our home is some sort of awful thing and somehow bad</p>
<p>Truely scary that you don’t think we have any responsibility for caring for the earth, like, well, I don’t care…</p>
<p>driver, do you not give a hoot about our planet, any caring at all, I think you like living in your little cave </p>
<p>It is amazing that people that care are lambasted, that some how it is better to not worry…bet you guys thought it was okay to litter as well, cause, hey, its just garbage</p>
<p>Research is a LOUSY idea if you only have 10 years to turn things around, especially when you already know what you need to do at the level of consumption.</p>
<p>“he should be advocating a much more robust solution involving research on new energy sources and use of nuclear energy … kind of like Bush.”</p>
<p>Nuclear energy? That same one that is supposed to be too cheap to meter, but has bankrupted companies and left us with bottomless and unaccounted for expenses of decomissionning and waste disposal? </p>
<p>mini, he does beleive, but if he came out as you suggest, he would be seen as even more radical, and even is very moderate steps are seen as “out there”…more fuel efficency is perceived as socialist or something, i don’t quite get the vehement hatred for making changes no matter who is advocating them…</p>
<p>We have the technology- Europe has cars that get amazing mpg…but USA thinks bigger is better</p>
<p>So because Gore isnt perfect, people dismiss all he says- we do that at our peril</p>
These are unfair statements. Simply because people disagree with you doesn’t give you the right to tar them as uncaring, irresponsible environment-haters.</p>
<p>there are easy steps to take- we are lazy, and want a quick fix…we got to this point from many causes adding up, we can pull back with different strategies, but guess that is too complicated for some</p>
<p>no canned answers, but many easy steps and changes if everyone does a litte</p>
<p>In the 60s the freeways were covered in litter, people just threw things out windows, but with some education and caring, it has gotten better</p>
<p>During the drought in California, most people did what they could- less watering, less laundry, less flushing, shorter showers, every little action helped</p>
<p>During the “energy” crisis, even though it was fake, we still stepped up and tried to cut back</p>
<p>During the earthquake, we all learned to share, and plan</p>
<p>So, we aren’t a stupid people, we have the brains to figure steps out, we choose to be lazy and to be in denial, because the bad news is coming from a “liberal”</p>