They actually do make such distinctions already. I am pretty sure that none sell any oil directly to Israel. And Saudi Arabia and other Mid-East countries deny entry to people who also have an Israeli stamp in their passport.
But why go to the Middle East, just go to Dearborn, Michigan to see Muslim religious convictions in action. A gay gentleman already went to Dearborn to try and get a gay wedding cake made at Muslim bakeries. Not surprising, he was turned down for service at several places and sent to Kroger’s and elsewhere.
However, I am not expecting protests or shut down those bakeries movements because the Muslims would not put up for that bullying and would kick the protesters butts and hunt their families down too. Yep, these protesters are just bullies who pick the Christian targets who they know will would not hit them back thrice as hard.
The video of the gay person being turned down for his gay wedding cake can be found at “Louder with Chowder” website under title of “Gay Wedding Cake at Muslim Bakeries.”
It is actually a well-done video and illustrates the problem that the will soon confront gays trying to force religious people, other than Christians, with strong convictions to do things they do not believe in supporting. But, they will be bullies to the Christians, if they can get away with it, but will cower when they know their crap will not be taken. If it quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck, or better said, if it acts like a bully, it probably is a bully.
You mean “Louder with Crowder,” meaning Steven Crowder, a far right-wing website. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn’t read carefully enough to notice that the video was a set-up, in which he himself pretended to be a ridiculously stereotyped flamboyant gay man, in order to get the situation he wanted: “What do you think happens when a gay, like SUPER gay Crowder tries to get a super gay wedding cake baked at a Muslim bakery? I’m pretty sure you can guess, but you might as well watch this week’s adventure to Dearborn, MI to find out!” Reprehensible to do it; reprehensible to cite it if you knew it wasn’t genuine. And also to imply, as you do, that gay people are cowards. Don’t count on it. Do you actually even know any gay people?
“We understood each other had different views and no one tried to change or make the other accept or do things the other did believe in. Plus, he was one darn good wingman, so any disagreements lasted as long as getting into formation at the next party. And we happily still got each other beers.”
Which were you – Goose or Maverick? Did you ever lose that loving feeling?
And i thought your personal religious beliefs precluded premarital sex?
There has been significant issues with checking sources in this thread, DonnaL. People start grasping at straws when reality doesn’t fit their rhetoric.
Nonsense. Someone could have many religious convictions but their actual expression may be unlawful. There have already been many examples given. And very soon, that may extend to any kind of discrimination against LGBT.
By the way, why do a select few people keep making this about wedding cakes? In order to trivialize the concerns about discrimination or imply that this is the only way the law would be used by “people with strong religious convictions?”
Did Gov. Pence actually do any talking during his conversation with the President Emmert about the NCAA’s opposition to the law? Did Gov. Hutchinson sit quietly and listen when the Walton clan called him and “recommended” that he not sign the Arkansas bill? My tongue is firmly planted in my cheek.
This is in New York- imagine that? I’m sure every Forever 21 employee feels this same way and anyone with any sense of decency should never shop there again. If you are gay or transgender, I would suggest avoiding all malls where there might be Forever 21 stores.
And that only Christians were targeted by the media for the hypothetical question. There are other groups who have very strong religious convictions (including opposition to gay marriage), but they weren’t asked the question by the legacy media. Why not? (A) because it doesn’t fit the narrative of ignorant, white Christians and (B) fear of bodily harm if asking that question of non-Christians with strong, anti-gay marriage religious views.
There are hateful people everywhere. Hate knows no boundaries. But since this was in NY, Forever 21 is in violation of NY State’s Human Rights Law. Corporate Forever 21 is going to be paying for their employees horrendously disgusting actions and likely going to be ordered to increase training in this area for all employees. There is a price they will have to pay for the actions of their employees.
"Why not? (A) because it doesn’t fit the narrative of ignorant, white Christians and (B) fear of bodily harm if asking that question of non-Christians with strong, anti-gay marriage religious views. "
Maybe it’s because of the people in the room with Gov. Pence when he signed the bill and the people and organizations which are writing these bills for state legislatures.
I won’t even respond to B because it’s pure nonsense.
The hyperbole on this thread is impressive.
For example, today I learned: preferring not to shop at a store because of their policies automatically means avoiding any establishment that ever had anything to do with them. Who knew?
Not only were they receiving death threats , but a high school golf / softball coach tweeted this, which has led to her suspension…not strong enough punishment IMO
“This is the position of a secular person who does not have strong religious convictions and for people who do not practice what they preach.”
I know you are not saying this, but it begs the question - why can’t a secular person’s convictions be equally as strong as a religious person’s convictions? Why is it that the moment you slap the label religious on it, it becomes special and can’t possibly be touched?
I also don’t think Forever 21 is going to use the defense that having a transsexual employee goes against their religious beliefs so it’s their right to treat that employee in the manner she was treated. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
Romani- I have no idea what you are saying in your post, but I was just carrying through on the desire of some folks to eliminate all Indiana colleges and not drive through the state. Seems like Forever 21 would present a similar risk to those not wanting to chance it or support a mall that would allow such a company in it’s facility.
I can see not wanting to bring your company’s convention to Indy / Carmel, but not driving through the state seems a bit much. But to each his own I suppose.
ZM, they’re there but not as visible. For example, boycotting Michigan isn’t going to do anything because our economy is already in the tubes and our governor has made it clear that it’s not “on his agenda”.
But, graduates are boycotting with their feet but leaving the state in record numbers and flocking to states where there is marriage equality.