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<p>If you like that browninfall, no wonder you love the Republicans who hide behind the flag while sending our soldiers into a fight for oil. Glad to see the voters catching on in Virginia, New Jersey and California. How many pardons did the last Bush and the Reagan Presidency yeild.
You guys sure are a bunch a wascally wabbits.</p>

<p>If someone gave away our military positions to an enemy they would be dealt with quickly…these turncoats turned out one of our spies and everyone who had been in public contact with her in the past few years. Traitors.</p>

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<p>Keep calling them traitors and then click your heels together 3 times and maybe your wish will come true.</p>

<p>It’s funny how a school teacher from California can detect treasonous acts but a fulltime investigation by a team of top investigators came up with nothing after 2 years. You are in the wrong business B.</p>

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<p>“Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. The real story is those jails.” </p>

<p>Republican Senator Lindsay Graham in response to the call by Frist and Hastert for an investigation of the leak to the Washington Post. </p>

<p>As someone who has read through all three volumes of the Gulag Archipelago, I thank God that there are still significant numbers of mainstream Republicans (all but nine Republican Senators, for now) who still have the backbone to stand up to Dick Cheney and say, “We’re supposed to be the good guys, remember? We shouldn’t permit torture, period.”</p>

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<p>Yeah, Greybeard. Torture, secret prisons in Eastern Europe, white phosphorous, policy by propaganda and planted stories, and rules of engagement that produce a lot of “Oooops!” </p>

<p>I’ll be damned if this is what my country and the West won the Cold War for. My country always aspired to a higher moral ground than “we’re not as bad as they are” or the pernicious “it’s required for national security.”</p>

<p>No wonder that most of our “allies” are bought and paid for and others are holding us at arms length. But wait…the sock-puppet that purports to be our President campaigned on the notion that we should be humble in our foreign affairs…and that the military shouldn’t be used for nation building. ROFLLMAOASTC.</p>

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<p>ff, One of the great things about this country is that every citizen is responsible for keeping this country great. So when I learn that we have an administration that is denying people their rights, outing our spies, and torturing others…I do get to speak out…and I am in the right business. </p>

<p>Bush should take the pledge not to pardon these traitors.</p>

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<p>Along with that right comes the responsibility of getting your facts straight and avoiding political agendas. You are not taking that responsibilty seriously.</p>

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<p>Zell Miller on Plame
By ZELL MILLER
Published on: 11/02/05
It’s like a spy thriller. Institutional rivalries and political loyalties have fostered an intelligence officer’s resentment against the government. Suddenly, an opportunity appears for the agent to undercut the national leadership. A vital question of intelligence forms the core justification for controversial military actions by the current leaders. If this agent can get in the middle of that question, distort that information and make it public, the agent might foster regime change in the upcoming election.</p>

<p>But the rules on agents are clear. They can’t purposely distort gathered intelligence, go public with secret information or use their position or information to manipulate domestic elections or matters without risking their job or jail.</p>

<p>But their spouse can!</p>

<p>The agent realizes her spouse can go out on behalf of the spy agency, can distort information, go public with classified information and use all this spy-agency-sponsored material and credentials to try to pull down the current government, and it is all perfectly legal.</p>

<p>Suppose the spouse adds just one more brilliant, well-aimed lie: claim your foremost political opponent put the spouse up to the trip. As your spouse uses your agency’s name to mount attacks, your enemy may fall into your trap. Will your enemy suffer your spouse’s lies or take the bait and try to clarify his non-role? If he tells the press he didn’t hire your spouse, the press will demand to know, “Then who did?”</p>

<p>Instead of you violating secrecy laws, it is your victim who is guilty because he tried to set the record straight. Heads, you win; tails, he loses.</p>

<p>It sounds unbelievable, a fiction, perhaps to be called “To Sting a King.” But it is no fiction. This is the story behind Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson and the Bush administration. And it appears that Plame and Wilson will get away with the biggest sting operation ever.</p>

<p>No one seems to care that our intelligence agency has crippled our president. Certainly not the media. They are determined to make Wilson a hero. Recall the dozens of times the Washington Post and The New York Times carried his lies on the front page, above the fold. The conclusive story discrediting Wilson was buried 6 feet deep, back by the obituaries.</p>

<p>To the media, it doesn’t matter that the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence says Wilson lied about what he did and with whom he met while investigating Iraqi attempts to purchase “yellowcake” uranium.</p>

<p>To the media, it doesn’t matter that the CIA says what Wilson did actually find supported that Iraq was attempting to buy the uranium — a direct contradiction to Wilson’s public claims.</p>

<p>To the media, it doesn’t matter that he claimed the vice president assigned him to the uranium investigation when we all know now it was his wife.</p>

<p>Some absurdly claim that Plame had nothing to do with her husband’s political activities against President Bush. But let it be clear. Plame could not have done what Wilson did and gotten away with it. Wilson could not have done what he did without Plame giving him a way to do it.</p>

<p>Something has to be done. We can’t let the CIA become the domestic dirty tricks shop, with Republican and Democratic agents each trying to pull down their opposing presidents.</p>

<p>We need a Plame rule. Any family member of a CIA agent tapped to help out must live by the same rules regarding information disclosure and domestic political manipulations as those imposed on the agent. If the family member fails to live by those rules, the agent is terminated.</p>

<p>Clearly this will restrict the flexibility of the CIA. But who ever thought that the flexibility given to CIA agents would be misused to destabilize a U.S. president? No one — until Valerie Plame.</p>

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<p>It’s not just the media who purvey Wilson’s lies, I recently heard Congresswoman Sanchez and former President Carter spouting the same lies about what Wilson claimed to have found out but actually didn’t.</p>

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Funding father was this meant for me or was it for President B. and posted to me by accident? I am the guy who didn’t think there were weapons of mass destruction or any good reason to attack Iraq. You must be talking about the President and I agree!</p>

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<p>“We have noticed that Valerie Plame Wilson has lived in Washington since 1997. Where she was before that is not disclosed by research facilities at my disposal. But even if she was safe in Washington when the identity of her employer was given out, it does not mean that her outing was without consequence. We do not know what dealings she might have been engaging in which are now interrupted or even made impossible. We do not know whether the countries in which she worked before 1997 could accost her, if she were to visit any of them, confronting her with signed papers that gave untruthful reasons for her previous stay — that she was there only as tourist, or working for a fictitious U.S. company…The importance of the law against revealing the true professional identity of an agent is advertised by the draconian punishment, under the federal code, for violating it. In the swirl of the Libby affair, one loses sight of the real offense, and it becomes almost inapprehensible what it is that Cheney/Libby/Rove got themselves into. But the sacredness of the law against betraying a clandestine soldier of the republic cannot be slighted.” William F. Buckley, Jr.</p>

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<p>I apologize for not having the time to wade back through the last 11 pages…</p>

<p>Pretty simple stuff here it seems to this humble moose. “W”, Cowboy Dick and company planned to head into Iraq from (before) the day they took office. Had to finish up and out do Daddy’s Desert Storm, and Haliburton et al. can always use a new contract or two, plus there’s oil in them thar sand dunes. </p>

<p>Needed some reasons, needed some excuses though to get to shootin’. 9-11 helped, but a few more “facts” needed to be thrown in…ah, WMD’s must be there. But when the “facts” didn’t bear out, they threw Wilson and his wife under the bus and attempted to crush any dissenters, just as they continue to do (don’t forget, we are at war, don’t be criticizing us, what are you Democrats, all Hanoi Janes).</p>

<p>this is all tried and true politics as usual. For those who remember the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, this is just a new war, in a new package, brought to you by a new administration, with the same old tactics (regardless of the party).</p>

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<p>Enter Woodward…and The Washington Post.</p>

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<p>The latest from Scrappleface.com</p>

<p>November 16, 2005
Sources: Plame Learned Covert Status from Woodward
by Scott Ott</p>

<p>(2005-11-16) — Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who secured grand jury indictments against a top Bush administration official last month, today announced he may be close to discovering who told Valerie Plame that she was an undercover CIA agent.</p>

<p>Mr. Fitzgerald refused to release any names, but sources close to the probe said evidence indicates that the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward may have revealed Ms. Plame’s covert status to her.</p>

<p>The prosecutor declined to comment on Mr. Woodward’s possible connection to the case, instead he focused on Ms. Plame’s apparent ignorance of her role at the Central Intelligence Agency.</p>

<p>“In the months, and even years, leading up to July 2003, Valerie Plame was not behaving like someone who knew she was a covert agent,” said Mr. Fitzgerald. “The woman friends knew as Mrs. Joe Wilson seems to have learned of her undercover status at about the same time a reference to her appeared in Robert Novak’s syndicated column.”</p>

<p>The prosecutor said it may be a violation of federal law to reveal a CIA agent’s covert status to the agent.</p>

<p>“We’re looking at what’s called ‘deep deep cover’ in the intel community,” Mr. Fitzgerald said. “In other words, the CIA unwittingly may have been using Mrs. Wilson as an undercover agent without her knowledge, or the knowledge of anyone else at the Agency.”</p>

<p>Meanwhile, as former vice presidential chief of staff I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby awaits trial on five counts of hindering the CIA leak probe, Mr. Novak and Mr. Woodward remain at large.</p>

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<p>I have no idea how often agents are unaware of their covert status…what is the story on this? I mean her husband claims to have known doesn’t he? The brainiac who maybe just posturing as a moron?</p>

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<p>How many?</p>

<p>If I can’t get the tunes “Out of My Head” from GWB and DC “…Irresponsible” comments, neither shall you!</p>

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<p>Round 2 is on it’s way.</p>

<p>Interesting letter from John Dean to Patrick Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald seems to know what he is doing and may already be aware of what Dean is telling him. </p>

<p>Read the whole letter at:
<a href=“http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20051118.html[/url]”>http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20051118.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>EXCERPT: "So narrow was your investigation that it appears that you failed to learn that Bob Woodward had been told of Valerie Wilson’s CIA post until after you had indicted Scooter Libby. While I have no doubt you know your way around the Southern District of New York, and the Northern District of Illinois, Washington DC is a very different place.</p>

<p>With all due respect, Mr. Fitzgerald, I believe you are being had. I believe that you were selected with the expectation that you would conduct the narrowest of investigations, and it seems you have done just that.</p>

<p>The leak of Valerie Wilson’s status did not occur in a vacuum. Republicans in Congress do not want to know what truly happened. You are the last, best hope of the American people in this regard.</p>

<p>I can tell you, as someone who travels about the country, that Americans – regardless of their political disposition – are deeply troubled by this case. And, increasingly so, by the limits you have apparently placed on your investigation.</p>

<p>To right-minded Americans, the idea that Administration officials have betrayed their national security obligations, yet remain in their jobs, is nothing short of appalling. Beyond politics is patriotism: Patriotic Americans want to see you not only prosecute those who compromised and endangered Valerie Plame Wilson, but also force the Administration to clean house with respect to those who did this, which you can accomplish through appropriate civil action."</p>