<p>haha, r30028, unfortunately no, my parents are not paying a single dime for my tuition. My expected family contribution is 0 cuz our income is really really low. I pay my tuition w/ about 16000 grant/scholarship and about 5500 loan per year. that is perhaps the reason why I think I should have more control of my future, becuz I’m financially independent in terms of paying for all my fees</p>
<p>wat is desma major exactly?</p>
<p>and wat would you do if you were me?</p>
<p>design media arts major - you can find more info on it here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.dma.ucla.edu/[/url]”>http://www.dma.ucla.edu/</a></p>
<p>If you want to change your major I suggest visiting broad and talking to the counselor there about it. There are certain times that you may apply for the major and you only get to try twice. </p>
<p>And if I were you?.. lol, I’m still trying to figure out things myself so I’m not exactly the best person to ask ;D</p>
<p>But anyway, for a job in japan, you might want to try becoming a teacher there first if you do decide to do art… Through the JET, NOVA, whatever program… I believe that through the jet program after one year of teaching in Japan you obtain your work visa (which you will need to actually do work in Japan). But umm…in regards to a career as a manga artist - I’m really not sure what to say. I know animators don’t get paid that much, and in Japan I think foreigners are hired last… The only other person I know that works in Japan is my friend’s brother who works as an investment banker. </p>
<p>There’s Tokyopop somewhere around LA and VIZ is somewhere up in norcal so you could try interning there if you want. There’s also the JAC (japanese animation club) that you could try out [if you do I might see you there haha].</p>
<p>In regards to interest vs. practicality… That’s really up to you. Give freshman year a go and see how you like it. Things change…paths change…lalala… Anyway, hope that helps a little, though I don’t think I exactly answered your question. =) You can’t change your major straight away to desma right now I don’t think, so just stick with engineering classes for now? There’s also a desma10 class that’s open to all students so you can test that out if it fulfills a GE or something.</p>
<p>Also…have you tried selling your art? At Anime Expo or Fanime etc? If so that could give you an idea of how well you’d do in the industry.</p>
<p>You could also try balancing it. There’s an engineer at UCLA that’s a pretty good artist on DA too, or well known at least from what I see haha. And then there are really good artists that majored in bio…or computer science… Lol. </p>
<p>There’s also an engineering program in Japan where you can study there for a year:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.eap.ucop.edu/eap/country/japan/[/url]”>http://www.eap.ucop.edu/eap/country/japan/</a></p>
<p>You have a lot of options. So look around and explore?</p>
<p>Sorry for being so all over the place in my post. I’m really sleepy right now. PM me if you have anymore questions. Hope I helped a little. x)</p>
<p>Oh, and here’s the art major website if you want to check it out:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.art.ucla.edu/[/url]”>http://www.art.ucla.edu/</a></p>
<p>lol, there are so many that want to be anime artists, but exactly how many hit it with a series in shonen jump or even a lesser known publication? </p>
<p>frankly, not many. Not only does the art have to look reasonably acceptable but there also needs to be a marketable plot. Ok, maybe not. I read some pretty bad ones, but most of those were somewhat obscure. It is nice to dream though (I want to be either a voice actor for anime or work in the Japanese porn industry), but I doubt I have the balls (both literally and figuratively) to work in the industry. I eventually want to work in some sort of financial role at Tokyopop or something, dealing with money each day and surrounding myself with anime. </p>
<p>And there are a lot of excellent artists not just at fanime selling fanart but throughout the world. keep in mind there are art schools throughout the nation, several of them better than ucla.</p>
<p>If you want to be surrounded by anime, do that at home. It’s actually quite depressing to work at Tokyopop if you are a hardcore fan who wishes to be surrounded by anime. I would say, apart from the editorial department (well maybe), 80% of the people don’t watch anime or read manga. They just work there.</p>
<p>that is depressing… hmm… maybe in a financial role with the occasional lounging around the department where the translating happens then.</p>
<p>kaiserwilliam damn im in the same financial situation as you too…my grants and loans are about the same as you…</p>
<p>yeah im essentially in the same position…im in a pre-med course right now…but i might switch over to bizecon, not really sure because i have a genuine passion for both areas right now and will see what happens during freshman year</p>
<p>good luck to you…you’ll succeed and find the right path</p>
<p>since you’re paying for it all yourself, i’d go with what you want to do rather than what your parents want you to do. it’s not like they can pull the plug on your education since you’re basically independant now.</p>
<p>^ yeah…if they’re not paying and you hate your father, what’s keeping you? spiting people is so satisfying…</p>
<p>if you can draw in general, consider double-majoring in art/film and something more practical. that way you aren’t limited to just anime, assuming you have any interest outside of it.</p>
<p>Accountants/finance employees at Tokyopop rarely lounge. That department is fairly small given the size of the company, so most of them will eat lunch at their desk and stay in front of their computer. I don’t really remember seeing any of the higher accountants eat anywhere but their desk. Kind of sad, but oddly enough, I like that kind of environment o_O.</p>
<p>Translation department…meh.</p>
<p>Working for a company that does something you like will be an eye opening experience. You realize that the company may produce something you enjoy, but that certainly does not mean that everyone or anyone in the company is a hardcore fan like you.</p>
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What are your other interests? Any other majors? How much do you know about the lifestyle of your intended profession? Is it worth the sacrifice? ($$$, parents’ expectations, using your degree, an education @ UCLA…)
Do you really think it will take until you’re 40 years old to discover that you dislike your profession and just fresh out of college, assuming that you take 1-2 years for the job, that you won’t want to change? That you’re stuck only doing Electrical Engineering (or whatever your parents want you to do) and that you won’t be marketable to other positions or jobs? Doubtful. Life as an anime artist should not be the be-all and end-all. People change. You might too.
Agreed. How about a balance between something that’ll land you safely while exploring the other option on the side? You can find out what would be the most appropriate preparation for your initial plan. Find out if it’ll satisfy any GE requirements… and, you can see if you can enroll or audit such classes if they are not permitted to students outside of the arts school.
You have some time to explore things and if possible, take overlapping courses that’ll help you out in your current college and for your prospective major.
There’s a balance. Interest vs. Practicality - it is not so black and white. You can have both. It doesn’t have to be expressed in degrees or in terms of any sort of certification. While you’re at UCLA, why not make the best out of it in terms of education and being learned and also in terms of future job prospects and your intended lifestyle?
Econ 1 and Econ 2 are social analysis GEs I think. You’ll get an idea of the level of competition there for BizEcon. You have time in other words… that and Math 31A/31B can be used for both pre-med and BizEcon.
Not necessarily. The financial aid is dependent on the parents’ ability to contribute. They fill out the tax forms and it goes from there. As a true independent, he’d have to be able to support himself entirely and establish any sort of idea of income so that if he were to apply for financial aid, that he would be able to carry it out. Respect your parents’ wishes. Respect your own. There is no definite answer. I suggest a sort of compromise with what you want to do, what they want you to do, and making the difference or seeing the gray in interest(s) vs. practicality.</p>
<p>Ah, good point with the financial aid.</p>
<p>Just do what you want.</p>
<p>It’s your life.</p>
<p>You’ll regret it later because it’ll be harder then.</p>
<p>And if it’s gonna be a fight between you and your parents, it’s gonna be one in the future too.</p>
<p>So either, you spend your whole life living your parents’ wishes so they still like you.</p>
<p>Or you do what you love and take responsibility for your own life. The good and the bad.</p>
<p>Maybe it’ll be harder taking the path you love, but you will be in control of your own life. That is a freedom you have to experience to understand.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you’ll spend your whole life miserable in a career you hate and every bad that comes along will be your parents’ fault (according to you).</p>
<p>I agree with applebell.</p>
<p>Also, your parents are not going to be around forever, so do what you want with YOUR life. You won’t regret it later on.</p>
<p>wow thx guys im getting some mixed reviews rite there. Right now i’m planning on sticking w/ electrical engr freshmen but trying out a few courses in art, joining a few art clubs and maybe land a job (in the distant future) that somehow relates to art, then make the decision of switching or not at the end of 1st yr.</p>
<p>again, thx for all your suggestions, keep 'em coming xD</p>
<p>If you do decide to stick with EE, there are plenty of options JUST BECAUSE you have an engineering degree - people want to hire that technical background. You may consider switching over to CS, because they will translate really well over to art and media design. In any case, good luck.</p>
<p>wo…my parents just gave me another doctor/lawyer/engineer speech =_=, this time they’r saying that if u want to buy the things you want, go on occasional vacation, own a car and house by the age of 50, you better be a professional worker, is that true? or they just bluffing?</p>
<p>Errr professional worker can include so many professions. Saying that is very vague. Even your dream of being an anime artist is a professional worker. Maybe they mean a high paying professional, lol.</p>
<p>You don’t need to make a doctor/lawyer/engineer wage to have those things by the time you are 50 (I’ve heard of some horror stories with the wages of lawyers btw). </p>
<p>Your wage alone won’t allow you to have all those things. I’ve seen Oprah’s debt episodes where a family makes 120k combined and have over 150k in debt. Without drastic cutting of expenditures, that family would probably have to file bankruptcy. </p>
<p>I’d say any job that blends practicality and interest together would allow you to have those things by the age of 50. Anime artist may not be the most practical though.</p>