<p>I just find it sad that a college has to be the new parents of these kids</p>
<p>TO have such strict rules, to me, implies that the young adults don’t have enough self control in themselves, that they need the threat of getting grounded in order to make the beds</p>
<p>My friend went to BYU a generation ago and said they couldn’t drink coffee on campus. She’s no longer a Mormon but loved the school. I think most kids who go to religious schools want to be in an environment where everyone respects certain standards of conduct.</p>
<p>An aquaintance of mine’s daughter attends a strict Christian school. She is there completely by choice. I have asked her about the environment and she says her classmates are there by choice as well. She chose the school because she wants to be in that kind of environment. She likes the rules and agrees with them because of her strong personal religious convictions.</p>
<p>Those schools with strict rules - like the ones that CGM has mentioned - are all religiously affiliated - and pretty much incorportate the rules/regs/guidelines based in that religion into the school - I guess I would have to repsect that aspect of it - even tho I don’t agree with many of them.</p>
<p>I don’t really “respect”, to be honest…I think it puts up arbitrary rules to show, “look how religious we are, but we don’t ourselves as a school have much faith that our kids will behave themselves, so we have to treat them like children who can’t decide for themselves”</p>
<p>I guess I just find it odd that one chooses to be in a place that no longer lets you choose how to act</p>
<p>I mean if you truely have faith, etc, do you need some third party telling you what to wear, who you can touch, who you can socialize with- what happened to free will?</p>
<p>And if you are strong enough in your own convictions, why should you be punished for slipping? shouldn’t your OWN convenent with God cover that? </p>
<p>Or do you need a third party to “ground” you as an adult?</p>
<p>Vyse - until the late 70s, Baylor DID ban dancing. Not sure when the alcohol rules changed.</p>
<p>I don’t think it is an issue of treating them as children; more of a religious community of adults who choose to live a certain way. Like if you went to a health spa where alcohol and chocolate and caffeine and trans-fats and television were banned.</p>
<p>Some people WANT to keep within their religious beliefs - even when they go to college - so YOU - I will respect that they choose to go to this school because of a religious affiliation - It is not up to us to degrade any of these rules - or the people who choose to attend the schools with rules such as these - it is their choice.</p>
<p>I doubt veyr much that
is the case at all - being as these schools are based on beliefs that we may not agree with - or understand as well.</p>
<p>Maybe it is better to respect things you may not understand than to critisize what others accept.</p>
<p>CGM the rules at these kinds of schools are not arbitrary. They are based on the sincerely held religious beliefs of those who choose to attend there. Strict Christians don’t view these as rules to dictate to them how to to behave but rather a reminder about how they believe a commited Christian does behave. I deeply respect my friends daughter as she is a kind, charitable, commited and loving individual. The kind of person the world needs more of.</p>
<p>Baylor is pretty tough on underage drinking (especially when it goes on in the dorms), but I’m pretty sure they allow all legal activities. I went to a Baptist high school, and we played cards at lunch every day. Dances were never officially sponsored by the school, but the parents would put them on (It worked better that way anyway, because the parents didn’t have stupid rules about the angle of your torso as mentioned in another thread last week), and the school basically complied by acknowledging these events as legit.</p>
<p>I wasn’t a fan of a lot of our rules though. Not all of them were bad rules, but I didnt feel like the punishment ever fit the crime. One of my friends who was the nicest guy in the world and in all my AP classes wasnt allowed to attend graduation because they found an empty beer can and a pack of cigarettes in his car. Meanwhile, most of the bullies, and generally unfriendly people were the children of the big wigs at the church. Because of their parents’ strict rules, they never drank or smoked, but they never really got the “do unto others” part down. If I were the administrator of a Christian high school, disobeying the Golden Rule would be punishable by expulsion, and victim less “crimes” like underage drinking at school functions would be met only with a less intense punishment like having to clean the gym (assuming no driving or dangerous behavior was simultaneously involved)</p>
<p>what happened to free will?</p>
<p>Nothing. The fact the students chose to attend colleges with rules is by definition an act of free will.</p>
<p>I knew people who followed very strict religion-based rules of conduct when I was in college.</p>
<p>This was at a large, secular university where there were almost no rules, except those pertaining to fire hazards.</p>
<p>These people didn’t follow their rules of conduct because the college told them to; they did it by choice, following their own standards.</p>
<p>I have a lot of respect for people like that.</p>
<p>At my daughter’s college, each fraternity has its own house, and that is where the members live. But sororities have no houses and the sorority sisters do not live together, and, my daughter told me that it’s because there is still a law on the county books that says that any more than five women living in one house constitutes a “brothel” and is therefore illegal. </p>
<p>I don’t quite get that, because then what constitutes a “house”…it seems that a dormatory building could be a “house” as well, so… (???)</p>
<p>I do wonder though why these students couldn’t just attend a normal University, and hold themselves to these standards of conduct without the iron fist of their school’s administration. I have a lot of friends here who actually choose to follow these rules (the drinking and premarital sex, not the crazy ones about having chaperones) despite the fact that they aren’t official University rules.</p>
<p>I’d think doing it that way would be better preparation for the real world.</p>
<p>LTS - I think that is a ‘law’ also in NC still - it applies to the privitazation I believe - which the school dorms/affiliations are exempt - under a different ‘law’.</p>
<p>My gals friends actually got caught up on that brothel ‘law’ a couple of years ago - they rented an off-campus house - 5 of them - all unrelated - and actually ended up with 6 girls in the house - the landlord got wind of it and had them all evicted - based on that actual brothel ‘law’ - yet 6 guys can live together legally. Someday - someone will fight that law in NC - who has the $$ to do so.</p>
<p>Hey - in MA it is still illegal to take a bath on saturday night LOL - we something called ‘blue laws’ that are very antiquated - but somehow still on the books here.</p>
<p>JeepMom, I’m actually somewhat relieved to read that, because I always harbored some doubt that the story was true, and I sort of have idly wondered if my otherwise delightful child didn’t perpetuate the myth because she didn’t wish to rush after all. LOL.</p>
<p>But like you said - who has the money - let alone the time or even the interest - to fight it. And I suspect the university is just as happy to not have the problem to scramble about for a half a dozen sorority houses.</p>
<p>“MA it is still illegal to take a bath on saturday night”</p>
<p>Have to love MA. The state outlawed the sale of birth control pills to unmarried women until 1972…</p>
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<p>And don’t get caught kissing in front of a church either LOL</p>
<p>If ya think of what may be perceived as crazy rules at colleges - just look at some of the state laws still on the book - some are very very weird LOL (silly string gets a real bad wrap in alot of states.)</p>
<p>We’re not allowed to climb the trees at Vassar because it’s an arboretum.</p>
<p>At Washington & Lee - the president’s house has a barn/garage - there is a sign there that says do not close the doors - so Travelor can come and visit when he wants to - if the spirit so moves him to do so (Robert E. Lee’s horse)</p>