<p>TK21769,</p>
<p>For Davidson, I am not using common app. </p>
<p>If I delete the other 5, which colleges should I add.</p>
<p>I agree with tk, your odds are almost nil at those schools (Amherst admits at 2100+/national prizes, Haverford only funds 3 international freshmen, Harvey Mudd is one of the best Engineering schools in the US where your stats aren’t even on the radar and one of only two that requires Calculus but where most applicants are already advanced at the 2nd/3rd university-level class in math, etc.)</p>
<p>Through ApplyTexas, you can also apply to Southwestern and Trinity (TX). </p>
<p>Check out UniversalApp and see if there is any school to which you can apply from there.</p>
<p>Your last 5 should include
- 3-4 women’s colleges among Mount Holyoke, Barnard, Bryn Mawr, Agnes Scott, Mills, Scripps
- 1-2 among St Olaf, Franklin&Marshall, Skidmore, Earlham</p>
<p>MYOS1634,</p>
<p>I have already applied to Trinity College using Universal App.</p>
<p>These colleges, as per my information do not provide 100% Financial Aid to International Undergraduates:</p>
<p>Agnes Scott College
Mills College
Earlham College</p>
<p>I will look into the other colleges, you have suggested i.e. </p>
<p>Scripps College
Bryn Mawr College
Barnard College
Mount Holyoke College
Skidmore College
Franklin and Marshall College
St. Olaf College</p>
<p>I will also consider, these colleges, which you suggested in an earlier post:</p>
<p>Grinnell College
Austin College
Berea College</p>
<p>I had left out these colleges, too, earlier, since they were lower in the ranking. I can reconsider them, if you suggest:</p>
<p>Gettysburg College
Hillsdale College</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>MYOS1634,</p>
<p>This is what I have Analyzed based on “Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid” at these Liberal Arts Colleges:</p>
<p>Name of College : Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid : Remarks
Mount Holyoke College : 448 : Add #1
Franklin and Marshall College : 159 : Add #2
Grinnell College : 157 : Add #3
Bryn Mawr College : 157 : Add #4
St. Olaf College : 151 : Add #5
Amherst College : 146 : Delete #1
Trinity College : 146 : Universal App
University of Richmond : 128 : Already Submitted
Berea College : 105 :<br>
Bates College : 84 : Delete #2
Skidmore College : 80 :<br>
Washington and Lee University : 73 : Delete #3
Swarthmore College : 56 : Already Submitted
Davidson College : 48 : Colleges own App
Gettysburg College : 35 :<br>
Scripps College : 18 :<br>
Austin College : 16 : Texas App
Hillsdale College : 16 :<br>
Barnard College : 13 :<br>
Haverford College : 12 : Delete #4
Harvey Mudd College : 11 : Delete #5</p>
<p>Let me have your expert comments.</p>
<p>I will recheck as to whether all these which I have added, offer 100% Financial Aid to International Students, if not, I will delete the one which does not offer Financial Aid, and add another one from the top, as this list is sorted on “Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid”. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>When you say 100% of aid, do you mean 100% of “determined need met” (which means that their families are paying what’s been determined that they should pay, and then the school gives the rest of aid)? </p>
<p>Or, do you mean that these schools are giving all of those students grants that cover 100% of the cost?</p>
<p>How much can your family pay?</p>
<p>Are any of those schools “need aware” for int’ls?</p>
<p>It does not matter if the place funds all international students at 100%. What matters if you have a decent chance to be the one international student who is funded at 100%.</p>
<p>What is the OP’s information source for the average percentage of need covered by colleges for international students? The Common Data Set shows the average percentage of determined need that was met of all students who were awarded any need-based aid (see section H2i). However, it does not break out a separate average only for international students.</p>
<p>If the average in CDS/H2i is “100%”, then presumably this includes internationals. However, if that average is less than 100%, it does not necessarily mean that the school does not meet full demonstrated need of all (or some) internationals. It does not make much sense to admit a high-need international without covering all (or most) determined need, since the student cannot even get a visa to study in the USA without demonstrating ability to cover all costs. </p>
<p>However, almost all US colleges are need-aware for internationals. Apparently there are only 6 exceptions (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, MIT, Amherst); they are all probably out-of-reach for her scores. A need-aware school may be meeting, on average, 100% of demonstrated need for internationals … yet rejecting most high-need internationals (even if otherwise qualified).</p>
<p>In my opinion, the additions and deletions indicated above (#24) make sense, although the additions are still quite selective.</p>
<p>tk21769,</p>
<p>If you think the additions are still quite selective, can you please suggest some colleges.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Your “adds” are good and make sense. They’re still quite selective.</p>
<p>Have you found schools on UniversalApp that you can apply to?</p>
<p>Even if a school does not fund all of its international applicants or even if a school does not meet need for all, if you rank near the top at some school and they only award financial aid to <em>some</em>applicants, then your odds are good to be among those awarded aid. Therefore, you need to find schools where you rank above at least 75% applicants… that also don’t use the CommonApp.
I’m afraid very few schools will admit you despite your impressive grades because national/international awards and high scores are necessary for these first 15 schools - I do hope you get into 1 or 2, but they’re really unpredictable. Your latest “adds” may be your best and only chances so pay attention to your essays, contact professors and admissions to express interest (asking questions about specific classes, etc) </p>
<p>Go to the financial aid forum and look through the “automatic scholarships” sticky threads. There are few for your stats but if some match your stats, it means you apply and get the scholarship, period.</p>
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<p>Consider LACs ranked outside the US News top 40 (or so), or members of the Colleges That Change Lives. Relatively realistic targets might include Skidmore, Centre College, Gettysburg, Rhodes, Beloit, Lawrence University, Earlham, Muhlenberg, Hendrix, etc. Consult each school’s CDS, section H, to see how much aid these schools award to international students. </p>
<p>Or, look through the following list of schools (sorted by selectivity) for any that make full-ride merit scholarships available to international students with stats like yours. [National</a> Universities That Offer Full Ride Scholarships](<a href=“http://www.thecollegiateblog.org/2012/12/09/national-universities-that-offer-full-ride-scholarship/]National”>http://www.thecollegiateblog.org/2012/12/09/national-universities-that-offer-full-ride-scholarship/)</p>
<p>tk21769,</p>
<p>As per my knowledge, these colleges don’t offer 100% Financial Aid to International Students, still, I will recheck:</p>
<p>Centre College
Beloit College
Lawrence University
Earlham College
Muhlenberg College</p>
<p>As for the following colleges, I have personally interacted with them, and checked, and they have refused that they do not offer 100% Financial Aid to International Students:</p>
<p>Rhodes College</p>
<p>That leaves us with these:</p>
<p>Skidmore College
Gettysburg College
Hendrix College</p>
<p>and I am already considering Skidmore, and will consider if I have a way to get another slot free on Common App.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I am never one to discourage somebody to reach for their ambitions, but you have applied to the toughest schools in the entire nation. Your SAT scores are great, but just not good enough for most of these schools. Plus, you want to study medicine, which will go against you.</p>
<p>Firstly, medicine a very popular choice of study. Secondly, unless you’re very talented (which you may be) and they are adamant that you will get a job in an American hospital upon graduation, it’s not very likely.</p>
<p>You could check out the Five Colleges (Amherst, which is on your list, Mount Holyoke, Smith, Hampshire & UMass). They offer generous aid to internationals (particularly Mount Holyoke, Smith & Amherst)… but as aforementioned, medical studies are very different. Research assiduously before submitting any applications.</p>
<p>L</p>
<p>your suggestions are great .LrockinLDN</p>
<p>OP: I think you’re confusing “100% admitted international students get financial aid” and “students with need get 100% need met”.
Do you want 100% need met or do you want “some” financial aid disbursed to all admitted students? Or do you mean “full rides for truly destitute students”? (This last one only concerns proven geniuses). </p>
<p>I ask because if you don’t qualify as lower-class, I can’t imagine you’re truly destitute, and therefore I doubt you’d qualify for a full ride based on need (essentially, for Indian applicants, it means you live in a slum, and you’ve already established you don’t). Of course you could be middle class and still not able to contribute more than a few thousand dollars plus plane ticket but that wouldn’t be considered a full ride, that would be full tuition + (more than full tuition, but not full ride).
How much can your parents contribute?</p>
<p>Schools like the women’s colleges or Earlham are very generous for the students they want, even if they do not meet need for all admitted students. </p>
<p>Look at schools that aren’t CommonApp exclusive so that you can apply to schools with their own application (as you’ve already done for Davidson)
[331</a> ‘non-exclusive’ Common Application member colleges look like geniuses - Washington DC College admissions | Examiner.com](<a href=“http://www.examiner.com/article/331-non-exclusive-common-application-member-colleges-look-like-geniuses]331”>http://www.examiner.com/article/331-non-exclusive-common-application-member-colleges-look-like-geniuses)</p>
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<p>Where are you checking?
The Common Data Set is the one authoritative, public, easily accessible source for information about financial aid outcomes (unless the school posts separate statements on its site). The CDS does not break out a separate number, solely for internationals, showing average percentage of need covered. It only reports the overall average percentage of need that was met of enrolled students who were awarded any need-based aid. That number is shown on line H2i. </p>
<p>All but a handful of super-selective colleges are need-aware for internationals. Therefore, a school may be rejecting many internationals due to high need, yet still wind up with a high number in line H2i. Conversely, a school may be covering 100% of determined need for a small number of internationals with relatively high stats, yet show less than 100% in line H2i. </p>
<p>For a high-need applicant in a need-aware evaluation, your stats should be high relative to the average applicant’s in order to have a good shot at admission. This, I think, is more important in that scenario than whether the number in line H2i is “100%”.</p>
<p>LrockinLDN,</p>
<p>People suggested that I drop Amherst.</p>
<p>^LrcoinLDN also mentioned Smith and Moutn Holyoke, which have already been mentioned to you. You may have a shot at Mount Holyoke, did you already include it in your possibilities?</p>
<p>There’s a consortium of 5 colleges: Amherst (elite), Hampshire (hippie), Smith and Mount Holyoke (both elite women’s colleges, the former more politically active than the latter) and UMassAmherst (the public flagship of Massachusetts). Among those, Mount Holyoke is the most likely to offer you sufficient financial aid based on your stats, with Smith second. Women’s colleges are especially good for women in the sciences.</p>
<p>MYOS1634,</p>
<p>As per my knowledge these colleges don’t offer 100% Financial Aid to International Students :</p>
<p>Hampshire College
University of Massachusetts Amherst</p>
<p>As for the other 3 i.e. Amherst, Smith and Mount Holyoke, they do, and I have dropped Amherst, as advised, and considering the other 2.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>^ Would you please share with us the source of your knowledge? Maybe it would help somebody else.</p>
<p>tk21769,</p>
<p>My source is College Board, USNews, Common Data sets and the College websites.</p>